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May 15, 2013 at 4:24 am #40332
Dj Emazing
ParticipantIf you think the software will help you do a better job then maybe you’re not cut out to be a dj no offense.
May 15, 2013 at 7:37 am #40337Terry_42
KeymasterWell the “elastic” beatgrid tends to help me a lot when doing weddings etc.
Now you do not need to mix perfectly every song on a wedding (especially when dinner music is played, you can just crossfade etc.), but the Serato beatgrid is superior in my opinion.
However if it is worth switching over, if you are else satisfied with Traktor is doubtful.
Now I have several things I like with Traktor, but the overall workflow just is not for me (I am not a fan of remix decks) so I stayed with Serato.So the answer is not easy. Is the beatgrid better in Serato? Yes. Is it worth switching for it? No idea.
May 15, 2013 at 8:03 am #40338DJ Vintage
ModeratorNone taken.
I have just celebrated my 35 year DJ anniversary last year. I was a full pro for a few years when I was in my early twenties and travelled the world. This is turntables and mixer, nobody had ever even thought of digital anything :-).
So I feel confident that I can DJ without software.
I think we can agree that there is a lot to digital DJ-ing. It is a rather high-tech tool. Not only buying the necessary components (controller, software, laptop) take resources (money), but also a lot of time goes into preparing your collection to be optimally ready to take advantage of all the features digital DJ-ing offers.
As such, the choice of platform (Virtual DJ, Traktor, Serato) is important. You do not want to have three collections to worry about (not mentioning the RekordBox and Denon Engine ones).
The point I raised in my original post was that it SEEMS that various software offerings are more suited to this kind of DJ or that. I would like to find out if Serato is a more suitable tool for me than, say, Traktor.
It is, you’ll agree, fair to say that beatgridding is a feature that is available in all DJ software. And I don’t think there are many DJ’s that turn off beatgridding, just to show they are real macho’s and can do without it. If Serato is more suited to beatgrid the music I use (lots of 70s/80s disco and other non-electronic stuff), then I’d like to try it out, see if it feels right and maybe go there.
Hence I tried to tap into the sheer endless source of wisdom here at the forum and get some more input, before shelling out a couple of hundred for a cheap Serato controller that I might end up selling if I don’t like Serato or having to sell if I like Serato but want a fuller featured controller.
Greetinx,
C.May 15, 2013 at 8:08 am #40339DJ Vintage
ModeratorTerry_42, post: 40493, member: 1843 wrote: Well the “elastic” beatgrid tends to help me a lot when doing weddings etc.
Now you do not need to mix perfectly every song on a wedding (especially when dinner music is played, you can just crossfade etc.), but the Serato beatgrid is superior in my opinion.
However if it is worth switching over, if you are else satisfied with Traktor is doubtful.
Now I have several things I like with Traktor, but the overall workflow just is not for me (I am not a fan of remix decks) so I stayed with Serato.So the answer is not easy. Is the beatgrid better in Serato? Yes. Is it worth switching for it? No idea.
We have said it before, Terry: “If only there was a simple answer!”.
That is just the thing. I am “sort of” happy with Traktor. I too don’t use remix decks. And I am in the process of redoing my collection, so will have to go through everything once more (at least the 1.000-1.200 tracks I want to end up with as my primary collection). I can do that in Traktor … BUT … if I do decide to switch, this would be a good time.
Another thing is that I CAN (if I want) use Traktor with my new Denon SC2900/X1600 setup, but I couldn’t use it with Serato, which is another drawback to Serato in my case.
Do we know/suspect any changes in Serato’s marketing policy at any time in the near future as far as letting go of the hardware support structure they now have?
Greetinx,
C.May 15, 2013 at 11:35 am #40346Terry_42
KeymasterWell I predict that Serato DJ and Scratch Live will be integrated into one product.
But I cannot see them abandon the whole “certified controllers only” thing anytime soon. Same with Rane, I guess they have a really tight relationship.
Serato is definitely more slow in adapting new things, but they do it very high quality. Sometimes this pains me (as I had to wait a year until I got to switch to the TM4 with Serato) but the end result is very good and I can see why they do it this way.May 15, 2013 at 2:05 pm #40353DJ Vintage
ModeratorI hear that … but the X1600 is even Traktor Scratch certified … snifff.
Well, unless I buy a 215 euro Numark, I think I will never try out Serato.
Thanks for the input once again.
Greetinx,
C.May 15, 2013 at 6:35 pm #40358D-Jam
ParticipantI dunno. Everyone seems to handle non-edm pretty well. You just have to set it up. I used anchors in Traktor and did well.
Serato I usually assume is best for those wanting to use vinyl emulation.
May 16, 2013 at 7:32 am #40383Terry_42
KeymasterThat is right… I tried several things from our scratch course (http://www.digitaldjtips.com/dj-courses/#academy/) on my TM4 with my Traktor mapping, but the jogs are just not that tight. I can do it on the S4 however, but the jogs are too small for me.
With Serato on the TM4 I have a blast scratching away…May 26, 2013 at 1:21 pm #40733VinnyBlanc
ParticipantKeep in mind that when purchasing a Serato controller/software you are paying for a lifetime of free updates at that point as well. Compare this to Traktor where you are purchasing software with each new major release.
May 26, 2013 at 1:36 pm #40734DJ Vintage
ModeratorGuess I’ll just ask a MC2000 for x- mas then.
Greetinx,
C.June 2, 2013 at 12:21 pm #40890dj flyer
MemberHi Chuck!
Wy not try VDJ? Tried all the major softwares, but always end up going back to VDJ.
It’s not as cool and stylish as serato or traktor, but for mobile dj’s its awesome and have a bunch
off advantages over S and T.Perfect combination for a mobil/wedding/party dj I think is the MC6000 and VDJ.
I use the Pioneer SX, because I do club/big stage stuff and have to think ab’ the visual too.June 2, 2013 at 1:55 pm #40896Terry_42
KeymasterWith the new multi FX out in Serato 1.2 -> go I love it.
June 2, 2013 at 4:33 pm #40900DJ Vintage
ModeratorThanks for the input guys. I am still not sure. I really want something to work with my SC2900s/X1600 combo. I have decided to stick more time in running my old tunes through Ableton Live and fix the intro, outro and perhaps another useful mix point. Will make all of them 32 beat, quantized and save them as wav. That way it doesn’t matter in what setup I use them, I will always have easily mixable intro/outro and know for sure I have a 32 beat window to finish the mix.
@ DJ Flyer: I have tried VDJ (first time over 7 years ago already I think), and I (still) have the MC6000, but somehow VDJ doesn’t really do it for me. And as I understand it doesn’t do elastic beatgridding as good as Serato (which would be the main reason to switch).
Greetinx,
C.June 18, 2013 at 4:14 am #41407Dizzle
ParticipantI’ve only ever owned Serato gear. I started out with a Vestax VCI-300 and Itch and upgraded to the 380 and subsequently Serato Dj. A few of my mates use Tracktor…mainly those that went with the S2/S4 to start their digital djing. Most of the Djs I work with use CDs or a Serato box. I’ve used Serato with a pair of technics and tracktor with a similar setup.
I feel more connected to my library and tracks that are playing in Serato. Trackor makes me feel less connected to the music “on the platter”. Trackor has a more powerful and expansive feature set, but I play mostly hip hop & reggae at most of my paying gigs so most of those features are not necessary to me. I also love how Serato is plug and play, no configuring sound cards or midi mappings. Just plug in your rane mixer or serato box and go.
It’s kinda like comparing Windows vs OSX:
Windows (Tracktor) is very open ended. you can configure it almost anyway you want and it’s built to work with many different setups.
OSX (Serato) is a much more closed ecosystem. You have less choice with customization, and can only use it with a handful of systems.However, I feel that it is a benefit to Serato as they only have to write the software to work with a few systems. Which allows the software to have tighter, more responsive controls that are prone to less random glitches. The introduction of Serato Dj to the Vestax 300 series controllers further confirms my theory as I’ve had more random crashes and glitches using Serato Dj as compared to Itch, which I used for a couple years with almost no problems at all. Serato Dj has to work with a much larger selection of midi controllers from a wider variety of manufacturers.
So to sum it up. If you’re playing lots of loops and samples that you want to “play live” in your sets a la Tracktor remix decks, or you are pursuing a controllerist style of Djing, tracktor might be the software to go with. But, if you play songs that were made before DAWs were around to keep the BPMs static and the most you plan to use for loops are a few bars here and there, or maybe loop roll then Serato is where it’s at. I’ve seen some videos online where DMC champs compare the DVS performance of the two softwares where they claim there is no discernible difference. However, in my experience Serato is the better option for me.
June 18, 2013 at 3:12 pm #41413DJ Vintage
ModeratorI have to say that with the increasing buzz about MixVibes Cross and CrossDJ I am giving that some thought too. Apparently even better elastic beatgridding than Serato (looks amazingly close to the Ableton workflow) and with standard support for both my SC2900s and my MC6000 (might end up keeping it after all). Apps for iPhone and iPad and even a remote control app for iPad.
And obviously very tight integration with RekordBox (which is MixVibes software too after all, so not suprising).
If only they can get it to work in landscape on my iDJ Pro …
Greetinx,
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