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  • #3278

    If you’ll be running it all on the one computer, I’d think Serato+The Bridge would be the way to go. The level of integration displayed in the demo videos is just incredible. Ableton gets played like a deck too, so from the Serato point of view, it’s like playing a song that can vary as it’s being played and potentially never ends. No waveform, beatgrids are there though.

    I haven’t looked into the Traktor+Ableton setups yet, though I will now because I’m quite intrigued. I can’t see any way it could possibly stand up to The Bridge though.

    #3284
    Ivan P
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    I have no experience with this but it might be worth checking out:

    http://mspinky.com

    Apparently this was the first DVS-style integration that came out as a VST plug-in for Ableton even before the Bridge.

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    DJ Dain
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    DeeJayIvan, post: 3277 wrote: I have no experience with this but it might be worth checking out:

    http://mspinky.com

    Apparently this was the first DVS-style integration that came out as a VST plug-in for Ableton even before the Bridge.

    Damnit! I would love to experiment with this, but it requires Max for Live which is really out of my budget right now.

    #3627

    First off, this is going to cost a fair bit of money to do. If you go with either Traktor or Serato, you need to buy one of their official soundcard. Serato’s base level box costs $500 in the US. If you really want more outputs though, you’ll need one of the more expensive cards. Native Instruments gets you more bang for your buck in the soundcard department, however it does not have the integration with Live that Serato has. Plus, you will most likely want to buy another turntable. Also, to truly take advantage of using a DVS AND Live, you’re going to need a mixer with more channels.

    Okay, so let’s say you do decide to commit to this. You have two options. The first is Serato with its native LIVE integration. From what I’ve seen, the integration is very good. It’s like the two programs just magically melted together. I used Serato for many years before switching to Traktor. If you want a solid DVS, it works brilliantly. Your section option is to use Traktor and LIVE. There is no official integration between the two. Here’s where it gets tricky. You could do two things here. The first is to simply sync the midi clocks of both programs. The problem here is that you cannot have both programs in full view at the same time unless you use a dual monitor setup. You can then choose to mix directly in your mixer or route the audio back into LIVE and be able to add effects to the traktor audio coming in. Once again, you’re going to need a larger mixer if you want to do this. You can also run into latency and sync issues.

    Finally, no matter which way you go, you’re going to want a new controller (or 2). Midi keyboards are great for producing, but not so great for programs like Serato or Traktor.

    #3636
    jezalenko
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    Also make sure you check out Ms Pinky DVS system. I have heard that it can be integrated with Abelton to make a Bridge type system too. (Max for Live?)

    EDIT: found it! http://mspinky.com/2011/06/28/ms-pinky-max-for-live/

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