Question: What Would You Do?
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August 29, 2013 at 8:23 pm #43640
Dj Emazing
ParticipantAre we supposed to pic A or B?
August 29, 2013 at 8:27 pm #43641Coltrane09
Participantlol… No. Let me change it. The question is in B tho’.
August 29, 2013 at 10:30 pm #43643NewportDJ Drew
ParticipantI would use the wired mic. It really shouldn’t have any impact on professionalism.
August 29, 2013 at 10:51 pm #43645Coltrane09
ParticipantThanks, Newport. About an hour ago I was heavily leaning towards just simply using the wired mic and calling it a day.
August 30, 2013 at 2:24 am #43650Lamid45G
ParticipantThis is like really interesting ? coincidence? it is super weird
Cuz I have almost the same dilemma lol
In my upcoming (next thursday) gig, I have to get a mic, but i don’t have the opt between wired mic or wireless mic, IT have to be a wireless mic, the only option left is a cheap wireless mic or an xpensive wireless mic
The venue mic is broken, hence Its my obligation to get one, cuz I’m performing with a live singer, and she needs to walks around between stages and crowds without the restriction of the mic cable,
After searching around i came across with Shure wireless PGX series, with the budget around 80 dolla or PGX series Beta58 with 100 dolla, so its not too bad i guess for the priceAnd to reply your question, I go ahead just get the wired mic, since it doesn’t really required for the announcer to walk across the room and back to stage anyway, the announcer can just stand in middle of the stage where mic is and make the announcement / whataver, those brings people attention to the center of the announcer
PS can someone please explain to me how to hook up a wireless mic? On wired mic all you gotta do just simply plug the mic in the in-house mixer mic input, but in wireless? *confuse
August 30, 2013 at 3:21 am #43651Steve (k-rex) Richman
ParticipantI think you’re only looking at the mic, it needs to be paired with a receiver, which is what plugs into the mixer/pa, as in the quick start guide. And as far as I know, these systems go for upwards of $400 (cough).
August 30, 2013 at 6:08 am #43660Dj Emazing
ParticipantWell if the stage is small and if no one is going to be walking around in the audience to interact then I see no purpose for a wireless mic. I don’t even know how having a wireless microphone will give off a good impression, just get the mic stand and a wired mic and your good to go. If you do get the wireless mic and it leads to more gigs let me know.
August 30, 2013 at 6:18 am #43663Terry_42
KeymasterOk to the original poster:
Go with the wired mic, it will always be better than a cheap wireless one.
Just get a cable with a good length (5m at least) and make it a good cable. A mic stand will help so people have to go up to the mic stand to use it.As for wireless mics:
The cheap ones blow. Especially if you are in the US with lots of CMDA and other stuff polluting the wavespectrum. The cheap Sure ones will almost certainly make you cry.
The only 100% reliable system I have found (and yes it will cost you) is the digital system from Line6.
Also very good is the conventional system from AKG, but again you need to buy the top line system as this is the only one with automatic frequency shifting in case of distortions…August 30, 2013 at 6:53 am #43667Steve (k-rex) Richman
ParticipantMuch love and respect, Terry_42 – you give invaluable advice, great hardware tips, accurate criticism, and know way more than I do. However, I must respectfully disagree with your assessment above. Shure is considered to be the Rolls-Royce (Ferrari?) of wireless microphone systems, and there is no such thing as a cheap Shure system. Not sure (heh :)) where djzricki is getting pricing…..
August 30, 2013 at 8:02 am #43673Terry_42
KeymasterSorry, but yes I know and many people consider the SM58 the holy grail in vocal mics and I dislike all of them. The SM58 is overcompressed and one of the worst mics I have ever used in production.
Same with their wireless systems. I have had multiple singers use on stage that set you get with 2 SM58s wireless versions and the 2 antenna stagebox and it is bad beyond belief, even the entry level AKG will beat it hands down.But this is personal experience in the environments I worked with those units.
August 30, 2013 at 1:08 pm #43680DJ Vintage
ModeratorArggghhhhh … SM58
Please guys, don’t do your audience, especially the inexperienced users, the displeasure of having to do their announcement through that piece of something mic.
Yes, it is indestructable, pour a beer in it, run your hummer over it, twirl it on it’s cable above your head like a lasso for 5 minutes and it will still play. If you are (hard)rock singer and you like to shove a mic in the back of your their throat and yell at the top of their lungs, it can take that.
But, they need a lot of volume to get a nice crisp signal, the SM58 says “close-mic’ing like no other mic in the business. And newbies do NOT like to have the microphone touch their lips, no matter how well you prep them.
Also, the SM58 is not a very sensitive mic in the high end … so females will sound pretty aweful and men will sound like Barry White. This all goes for speech, not professional singers.
Then on the subject of wireless vs wired. I disagree with the wired advice for this kind of event. You are dealing with amateurs, they will want to walk around, hand the mic over to someone else in the middle of their speech, etx. This is all much easier with a handheld (wireless) than with a wired one.
I don’t know how expensive the food is the OP eats when he is NOT having tunafish and crackers, but GOOD wireless systems (even AKG, but certainly Sennheiser and especially Shure) are crazy expensive! If you want pro-grade stuff, there is no way you can finish for under a 1.000 euro. If you want a good receiver, mic(the actual transmitter) and capsule (on high end wireless mics you can swap out the actual microphone capsule to suit your style).
My advice here would be to RENT a good wireless mic. This should costs you (in my country at least) between 35-75 euro, depending on a few things, but you will have good quality equipment and a good sound.
Greetinx,
C.August 30, 2013 at 1:12 pm #43681DJ Vintage
ModeratorSteve (k-rex) Richman, post: 43824, member: 12411 wrote: Much love and respect, Terry_42 – you give invaluable advice, great hardware tips, accurate criticism, and know way more than I do. However, I must respectfully disagree with your assessment above. Shure is considered to be the Rolls-Royce (Ferrari?) of wireless microphone systems, and there is no such thing as a cheap Shure system. Not sure (heh :)) where djzricki is getting pricing…..
I need to back Terry up here. Shure is the top brand in wireless mics. BUT!!! only for the higher second half of their product range. The lower range has SM58-like capsules, no extra quality features in either receiver or beltpack/mic. And they will usually be VERY limited in useable channels (4 or 8).
Greetinx,
C.August 30, 2013 at 9:59 pm #43691Coltrane09
ParticipantDj Emazing, post: 43817, member: 9575 wrote: Well if the stage is small and if no one is going to be walking around in the audience to interact then I see no purpose for a wireless mic. I don’t even know how having a wireless microphone will give off a good impression, just get the mic stand and a wired mic and your good to go. If you do get the wireless mic and it leads to more gigs let me know.
lol…will do.
August 31, 2013 at 2:33 am #43694dannyboyex@gmail.com
ParticipantI vote go wired. I’ve been using an old school wired mic (i think it’s a shure) and i haven’t really need anything else especially for small gigs.
September 4, 2013 at 3:24 pm #43801DJ Vintage
ModeratorI stand by my first advice, when you are not the only person using the mic (my DJ mic is ALWAYS wired), than a wireless mic is way preferable. They’ll come up to you, you switch the mic on (un-mute), hand it over, ride the fader/button and EQ. When they stop talking, close the fader, take back the mic, mute it and put it aside til the next use.
You don’t have to worry about feeding and hauling back cable (in between DJ-ing!), no worries about mic stands having to be set aside. No amateurs fumbling with stands that are set to the wrong height, standing to far away from the stand/mic (if you are not used to it, it might be intimidating) and no worries about loud inserting the mic into the stand clamp and taking it out again.
I’ll pull rank here and with 35 years of mobile experience I can safely say that wireless beats wired FOR USE BY THE GUESTS any day of the week.
Greetinx,
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