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July 14, 2014 at 6:31 pm #2043222
Terry_42
KeymasterNo. Actually there are so many low end producers now, that play their own worst creation on gigs that promoters I know are more afraid you produce too.
July 14, 2014 at 9:52 pm #2043257Alex Moschopoulos
ParticipantProduce music because you have creative ideas and want to follow through with them. Don’t produce music because you want bigger DJ gigs. Like Terry alluded to, you end up making formulaic mediocre crap that floods the system.
If you want to get noticed as a DJ, production is one path. You could also try podcasting (and stay consistent). You could try blogging, or even promoting events.
Go out into your scene and get involved. Many promoters won’t turn away dedicated people who will do the work.
July 15, 2014 at 10:19 am #2043320Lamid45G
ParticipantTheres also an article here in DDJT, regarding making your own edits, its easy and fun
or mash-upJuly 15, 2014 at 12:21 pm #2043337Marco Solo
ParticipantIf you want to get noticed you need to stand out. Ergo, producing is not the way to do it. Get into turntablism, controllerism or other isms that require skill.
July 15, 2014 at 2:08 pm #2043361DJ Vintage
ModeratorLOL … I am quite sure there are some VERY wealthy guys out there that will disagree with production not being the way to go.
On a more serious note. Good producers require lots of skills too, just different from the -isms.
Here at Digital DJ Tips the only real “rule” we have is that you have a passion for music (and even that we don’t check 🙂 ). We don’t get into painting one group of people worse than another. So, if you feel that -ism is the way to go, then you are welcome to that opinion. But try to rephrase it so it is clear it’s just “your opinion” and not a stated fact. If you can keep your opinion from being degrading to other groups, that would be a great bonus!
Greetinx.
July 15, 2014 at 8:16 pm #2043437Alex Moschopoulos
ParticipantLOL … I am quite sure there are some VERY wealthy guys out there that will disagree with production not being the way to go.
I don’t think anyone here is anti-production. We’re just against people producing for the sake of popularity…as opposed to creativity.
July 15, 2014 at 10:58 pm #2043471DJ Vintage
ModeratorI am not saying anybody is anti-production, but the statement was that in order to get noticed, producing was not the way to go (stated as a fact, not an opinion). And I do believe there are some very succesful people who have proven that statement to be at the very least too black and white.
Then the statement is made that the -isms require skills, implying that producing doesn’t require skills, which -apart from being clearly untrue- is also rather derogatory towards producers.
Hence my reaction.
As far as producing for popularity as opposed to creativity is concerned, I don’t think that one necessarily excludes the other. Yes, there are very creative people that care nothing about popularity and suffer in dark attics and those less creative perhaps but with a better eye for what sells that make enough money to allow them to get noticed and perhaps slowly start introducing more and more of their own into their productions.
To each his own I say, but I don’t agree that just because a track is popular and the masses like it, there was no creativity involved in the creation of it or that it isn’t “real” music.
I have this with Jazz. I love mainstream stuff. And I know many fusion and experimental Jazz musicians spit on that kind of Jazz. It’s not considered music, too “commercial” (since when is it a sin to want to make some money doing what you love doing?), etx. Having been dragged to a few of those “concerts” and jam sessions and often had the feeling I was caught in a particularly horrible animal shelter where each animal was being cruely tortured. I could not find rhythm, just a cacophony of sounds.
Does that mean I don’t understand music? Perhaps, but I know what I like and if others think that is not music then tough sh*t, but others don’t dictate what I can consider music or what I should or shouldn’t like.
Imho the discussion of what is or isn’t good/real music is mute, as it is totally personal. Shooting something because most people like it (and if the plebs like and understand it, it really can’t be real/good music, right) is not right.
I respect everybody’s choice in the matter. And if I don’t like what you like, then that is fine. The other way around I don’t expect anybody to like all the music I like (although as a DJ it helps if lots of others DO like what I like 😀 ). I will, however, not say to someone that what he/she likes isn’t real music or isn’t good music. Just that it isn’t my taste, my kind of music.
Greetinx.
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