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July 17, 2013 at 8:20 pm #42324
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ParticipantMy general way is like this:
Track A is playing. Track B has the volume and bass turned all the way down.
Usually around the last 2 minutes of Track A I’ll start up Track B. Over the course of of 32-64 beats I’ll gradually bring in the volume of Track B with the bass still turned all the way down.
Over the course of the blend, I’m gradually bringing up the bass on Track B while lowering the Bass on Track A.
Many times I’ll just let Track A hit its end and it seemingly goes out nicely while Track B kicks it up into it’s “meat”. Other times I’ll cut off Track A at some point if the “meat” of Track B kicks in sooner. If Track A seemingly won’t “calm down” musically, then I’ll slowly fade its volume down and play with the EQs on Track A to kill it off, letting Track B musically take over everything.
My main goal is to have things liquid…seamless. I want the two tunes to meld and work together, complimenting one another, so you don’t have a sudden change that throws everyone off. I usually get this most of the time.
With some forms of music, the intro/outro is shorter, like when I used to play Electro House. I still do my usual kind of transition, but not drag it out too long.
Programming is key in all this. It’s not so much about how you’re playing as it is what you’re playing now and what you’re playing next. I’m often thinking about how these two tracks will meld as well as how the set is moving in terms of energy, and if I feel I’m headed in a right direction.
July 17, 2013 at 8:29 pm #42328DJ Vintage
ModeratorI generally use that little sliding knob thingie that lays flat under the upright sliding knob thingies … Somehow one track suddenly goes less loud and the other one get’s proportionally louder when you move it from one side to another, almost like magic! … Seems to work real well.
If I am playing with the old black plastic thingies and I don’t have the side to side sliding thing on my apparatus with all the sliding upright thingies and flashing lights and such, I just wait for one black round disc to finish and then stop it (or the pencil-shaped tip at the end of the s-shaped metal tube that moves from outside to inside of the disc will hit the self-adhesive paper thingie with the whatyamacallit’s name on it) and then press the square, pressable metal thingie that says “PLAY” on the other rotating machine. I just leave all the upright sliding thingies up as it seems that when I put them down, sometimes sound does not come out of the big, heavy, squarish wooden or plastic boxes with the round, moving, circular thingies.
It’s all still very complicated to me.
Greetinx,
C.July 17, 2013 at 8:32 pm #42329DJ Hane K
ParticipantChuck van Eekelen, post: 42485, member: 2756 wrote: I generally use that little sliding knob thingie that lays flat under the upright sliding knob thingies … Somehow one track suddenly goes less loud and the other one get’s proportionally louder when you move it from one side to another, almost like magic! … Seems to work real well.
If I am playing with the old black plastic thingies and I don’t have the side to side sliding thing on my apparatus with all the sliding upright thingies and flashing lights and such, I just wait for one black round disc to finish and then stop it (or the pencil-shaped tip at the end of the s-shaped metal tube that moves from outside to inside of the disc will hit the self-adhesive paper thingie with the whatyamacallit’s name on it) and then press the square, pressable metal thingie that says “PLAY” on the other rotating machine. I just leave all the upright sliding thingies up as it seems that when I put them down, sometimes sound does not come out of the big, heavy, squarish wooden or plastic boxes with the round, moving, circular thingies.
It’s all still very complicated to me.
Greetinx,
C.This. This should definitely be the opening paragraph in the next “learn how to dj” guide.
July 17, 2013 at 8:43 pm #42331DJ Vintage
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July 18, 2013 at 6:40 am #42347Terry_42
KeymasterI wait until there is an awkward moment of silence then hit play on the next deck 😉
July 18, 2013 at 3:03 pm #42372Coltrane09
ParticipantLMAO @ Chuck. You crazy dude…
July 19, 2013 at 10:27 am #42413Dominic Souza-Larimore
ParticipantD-Jam, post: 42481, member: 3 wrote: Many times I’ll just let Track A hit its end and it seemingly goes out nicely while Track B kicks it up into it’s “meat”. Other times I’ll cut off Track A at some point if the “meat” of Track B kicks in sooner. If Track A seemingly won’t “calm down” musically, then I’ll slowly fade its volume down and play with the EQs on Track A to kill it off, letting Track B musically take over everything.
My main goal is to have things liquid…seamless. I want the two tunes to meld and work together, complimenting one another, so you don’t have a sudden change that throws everyone off. I usually get this most of the time.
Great explanation and use of metaphors, made it really easy to understand your train of thought when you’re mixing and what it is you’re doing exactly.
I think I have this problem where I try to get my mixes “PERFECT” with each and every transition. I’ll listen to the outgoing track outro a handful of times to figure out and see (on the waveform) exactly where I want my transition to mix over, self admittedly obsessing over this aspect of my mix. Trying to get the phrasing perfectly aligned to achieve a “perfect” mix… which I am now realizing is an absurd goal and is causing me to waste a lot of time relistening to the track over and over again. Having taught and trained myself this method over the last year, I feel like my mixes lack creativity now and I rely too much on watching the waveforms and using the preview player to cheat (so to speak). My mixes just seem so stale to me now.
July 30, 2013 at 12:44 am #42665DJ AMK
MemberLoad all 4 decks with random tracks, hit play then head over to the bar.
July 30, 2013 at 12:58 am #42666Dj Emazing
ParticipantDJ AMK, post: 42822, member: 9439 wrote: Load all 4 decks with random tracks, hit play then head over to the bar.
LOL!!!!!! OMG this made my day!!!!
July 30, 2013 at 1:01 am #42667Dj Emazing
ParticipantI like scratching into the beginning of every track I have even if it’s a slow R&B song of a loud track I just scratch right into it with no sense or care for how it sounds.
July 30, 2013 at 6:35 am #42673Terry_42
KeymasterIn the days of vinyl I loved to scratch my back with the vinyl I just took of the platter. It just gave you that extra reach and USB sticks just do not cut it…. so I guess I know why so many people still use DVS.
July 30, 2013 at 1:27 pm #42686D-Jam
ParticipantBigChipsHI, post: 42570, member: 853 wrote: I think I have this problem where I try to get my mixes “PERFECT” with each and every transition. I’ll listen to the outgoing track outro a handful of times to figure out and see (on the waveform) exactly where I want my transition to mix over, self admittedly obsessing over this aspect of my mix. Trying to get the phrasing perfectly aligned to achieve a “perfect” mix… which I am now realizing is an absurd goal and is causing me to waste a lot of time relistening to the track over and over again. Having taught and trained myself this method over the last year, I feel like my mixes lack creativity now and I rely too much on watching the waveforms and using the preview player to cheat (so to speak). My mixes just seem so stale to me now.
It’s ok to be a perfectionist. Here’s what I would suggest:
- Make mixes to upload…not just “for fun”. When you plan sets, record yourself, etc…you’ll push yourself to get things solid. Also don’t be afraid to hit the “stop” button on the recorder, set up your mix again (or with a new track) and then re-record it (splicing it all together later). This is how I’ll see what works and what doesn’t. That or plan out your whole set in advance.
- Realize you’ll be your own worst critic. I’ll listen to my mixes and hear things I wished I did better or wonder what I was thinking…but I also know most people won’t catch the little things I would. Remember you’ll probably be listening to your mixes over and over while most people will listen once or a few times. Push yourself, but don’t get hard on yourself. This is supposed to be fun after all.
- Use the visuals, but don’t rely on them. I don’t see anything wrong with looking at the waveforms or even using hot cue marks to tell you when to blend in or fade out. This is the beauty of digital…but also the “new idea” on putting pieces of scotch tape on your vinyl. The preview player is merely so you can listen quickly without dragging a tune to a deck and such. I only tell you though not to treat beatmarkers as solid. Trust your ears first.
- If you think your mixes sound stale, then really look into WHAT you’re playing as opposed to HOW you’re playing. I personally like mixes that jump around different sounds related to one “scene”. So a deep house mix that plays jazzy stuff, smooth/mellow stuff, Latin-induced stuff, uptempo jackin’ stuff…all intertwined nicely…that’s a good mix. You’re supposed to take people on a journey, but I see too many DJs hand off 40-80 minutes of one sound or 40-80 minutes of the sounds everyone is playing. Go digging, find unique stuff you like, take chances.
ALSO…if you have a lot of one genre, but are getting bored, then play with another one. This is one of those tips I gave on beating the saturation blues. I recently made a new trance mix, and am loving it. However, I checked out some sets from the recent Ultra in Croatia and felt bored…because my mind is craving to do a deep house mix, perhaps produce a funky house tune I wanted to do, and even get around to making more old school mixes.
I have moods…and thus trance isn’t my mood right now. You should do the same if you’re bored. Get off your current mood and try another one.
July 31, 2013 at 11:38 am #42719DJ AMK
Membermy favorite transition is honestly intro outro. might be more complex than it sounds, but probably not.
i pretty much only spin trance, so keeping a constant flow to the set is a priority. ill find a 8 bar chunk like a minute or 2 into the next track, then use the mid and low EQs to slowly bleed them in, waiting for the downbeats ( i guess thats what theyre called ) with the woosh noises and shit to boost the next track in by like 10% while dropping 10% of the corresponding EQ, and perhaps dropping the upfade on the outgoing track by 1 dB.
its hard to explain without knowing the actual terminology, but thats my favorite way to mix. smooth as paula deen butter.
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