Playing the same set twice
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October 2, 2012 at 2:23 pm #1012928
Tommy Hear Me
ParticipantDon’t think anyone willl notice but there is always one Trainspotter.
October 2, 2012 at 2:42 pm #1012930DeeJay SiBoogie
ParticipantSome of my sets are pre planned some are off the cuff but all of them are saved as playlist (I use RekordBox) so that if it’s a great set I can always use the same track list again.
October 2, 2012 at 2:43 pm #1012931Dalton Black
ParticipantThis is racking my brain. I really wanna jam out tonight but I’ve taken a lot of time to perfect this set with cue points, timing, and musical flow. I don’t want people to think I can’t mix if I do it twice but I’d love to be able to pop out this banging set twice.
October 2, 2012 at 2:43 pm #1012932Dalton Black
ParticipantYeah, I pretty much have 10 or 11 tracks lined up in a folder that I know how to sequence well together for a great experience. After those songs, I’m left to doing things on the fly.
October 2, 2012 at 2:49 pm #1012934DJimC
ParticipantI wouldn’t worry too much about it. If you want to hide it slightly, you could always use this sequence of tracks in the middle of your second gig instead of at the start. Also, 10 songs should last for about 30 minutes max, that should still leave you will plenty of time to be orginal in both mixes.
October 2, 2012 at 3:00 pm #1012935Dalton Black
ParticipantThanks, DJimC. I guess you’re right, as long as I have a different beginning, ending, or both, I might be ok! 😀
October 2, 2012 at 6:21 pm #1012945DirtyDan717
MemberThink of it this way, you aren’t selling a duplicated product, you’re selling an enhanced version of an original.
I went to see George Carlin (RIP) at a small venue about 6 or 7 years ago. Of course he was hilarious and awe inspiring in his delivery. Thing was I kept seeing him reading his jokes off a tablet laying on a chair next to him. I thought it was curious, maybe the old guy was losing his shit. I learned later a lot of comics do this while they’re trying out new material, in Carlin’s case he was preparing for an HBO special. Do you think of his fans who saw him on the road that month didn’t bother to watch his special when it came out? Of course not!
My feeling is, you molded a bangin’ set that you’re proud of, but it can always be better. Don’t be afraid to play it out again, making a few tweaks here and there. Much like in any profession, attention is paid when you screw something up not when you’re consistently killing it. You reticence at repeating yourself is the mark of any good, creative professional. The public at large will barely notice.
October 2, 2012 at 7:10 pm #1012947Anonymous
InactiveMost DJ:s have an evolving playlist that changes slowly from event to event. That’s quite OK, unless you really want to go with a fresh set every time, it’s doable but you need to line up a lot of proven tracks.
What you could do, and I don’t myself… is to have a playlist in iTunes/Traktor or whatever, and move tracks in and out to this play list *and* move the outgoing tracks to an archive playlist. And have another playlist where you collect possible new tracks to be included to the playlist. You could even have multiple working playlists that you collect. Or a big playlist with let’s say 200 tracks where you only need 10-30 or so for each event.
October 3, 2012 at 6:48 am #1012964Terry_42
KeymasterJust try to vary the song order, mix in a few new ones and you’re fine.
October 15, 2012 at 6:06 pm #29983Phil Morse
KeymasterI had a Saturday night residency for many years, I basically had a one-in, one-out policy in my playlist, which meant the set often didn’t differ much from week to week… as a poster said above, allowing things to evolve naturally is fine.
October 16, 2012 at 9:26 am #1013720Dalton Black
ParticipantThanks, guys. Without even trying to do this, what I’ve ended up doing is exactly what’s been suggested. My playlist has been heavily modified since I first started working on it for this big event. I did a few of the tunes a couple of times when playing out but always in a different order. Since then, I’ve added different tracks and rearranged things a lot. I appreciate all of the feedback!
October 16, 2012 at 10:51 pm #1013812B.B. Koning
ParticipantI haven’t played out yet, but I have been actively dipping my toe in the live DJ broadcasting scene.
I did a set where I got incredible feedback from a room that was basically all fellow DJs. I came with stuff that they hadn’t heard before, and I felt like it all flowed together reasonably well.
Of course, I felt like there were some misses, but I am currently doing sets with the same core set structure.
I had wondered about whether or not this was acceptable or not myself, so it’s good that you raised the debate.
Given that my crowd is basically other DJs, there is the possible backlash. But I’m running with the theory that there’s always somebody coming into the room that may not have heard these songs yet.
Also, I love all music, and I bet you do too.
Gene Simmons of KISS basically said that he’s not going to change their setlist drastically from one gig to the other, not just because of the tightly coordinated lights and pyro, but also because the likelihood is greater that there will be a greater percentage of people who have not seen their show yet.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Rock bands have been doing this kind of thing for years.
October 16, 2012 at 11:11 pm #1013815Anonymous
InactiveIf you are a big DJ and move from city to city with the same playlist, there’s a tiny chance you get the same people attending. If you place at the same establishment each week, better be fresh. If you release mixes on the web, would be boring to have the same songs represented over and over.
October 17, 2012 at 8:37 pm #1013876Charles Sue-Wah-Sing
ParticipantThere’s a small club down the street from where I live. The DJ there literally plays the same tracks each week. As a music lover it’s real boring to listen to. But props to him, because the floor is always packed. He knows what the crowd wants to listen to.
October 17, 2012 at 8:40 pm #1013879Anonymous
InactiveShuga*Foot, post: 30362, member: 2922 wrote: There’s a small club down the street from where I live. The DJ there literally plays the same tracks each week. As a music lover it’s real boring to listen to. But props to him, because the floor is always packed. He knows what the crowd wants to listen to.
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