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  • #1027081
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    What did I miss, a vinyl emulation LED bar? I think I need to go have another look at the unit.

    Ah, the little display in the jogwheels!

    Well here’s the good news, in “Scratching for Controller DJ’s”, our esteemed instructors Phil and Steve show how, when you scratch on a controller, you look at the waveform on the screen, rather than at any marker on the Jogwheel. You see, very few controllers have a feature like that. But ALL controllers utilize DJ software that shows you perfect waveforms, zoomed in as far as you like.

    So, no need to spend the extra cash, not for that single reason anyway.

    Greetinx.

    #1027133
    Matthew Sik
    Participant

    Thanks for the comment. What about the feeling of the jog wheels?

    Does it feel good to scratch with SR? I know that Numark NS7II is highly appraised of its nice jogwheels , but that’s way too expensive. Are there any alternatives or the SR is good enough?

    Thank you

    #1027151
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    The SR and SX platters “feel wise” are almost identical. Take not that both are incapable of performing backspins due to the built in break that you cannot disable (aka both do stop instantly when you let go).

    Controllers in that space that I consider superior to the Pioneers for scratching:

    – Reloop Terminal Mix Series (best jogwheels in the industry)

    – Vestax VCI 380 and VCI 400 (excellent jogs and tension adjust)

    Also if you like scratching I would only use Serato DJ as it is the most tight scratch feeling you can get. Since Serato has parallel waveforms (with multicolor) and spinning platters on the screen the LED lights on the jogs are highly overrated, since you will rather look at the screen and feel the jogs and crossfader when you scratch.

    #1027280
    Matthew Sik
    Participant

    Thank you Terry. I have looked into the reloop terminal mix series and vestax 380 400.

    I prefer vestax since they have the rubber touch pad. However, their price is quite high and doesn’t include the Serato DJ…

    Im gonna wait for the reloop terminal mix 8.

    Thanks so much

    #1027296
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    We will try to review the Terminal Mix 8 asap. I think Phil is already in contact with reloop to check if we can get a unit for review. So keep checking our site 😉

    #1027584
    DJ 2-Easy
    Participant

    Hi Matthew, and welcome.

    I use a Terminal mix 2/Serato for scratching and the jogs are superb in size and smoothness of action.

    And as Terry said, Serato is really tight. If it’s good enough for Qbert its good enough for all of us 😉

    #1027656
    Isaiah Furrow
    Participant

    Terry,    are you sure that the SR won’t do backspins?   that’s one of the controllers on my list and that’s almost a dealbreaker on getting the SR…..    Let me know, I’m looking to upgrade to a Serato controller that is “pro” enough to use for a few years, something with good audio quality, loud cue volume, balanced outs are a plus, and using most/all of the features of Serato DJ is a plus….. almost considering the MC2000 for it’s small size, but it just doesn’t seem right for moving up from a mixtrack pro 2.   I will be looking into the VCI380, MC6000 Mk2, and SR more thoroughly….. and checking back on this thread.    I have to make up my mind, because as soon as I get a couple hoops jumped through, and my business bank account set up, I will be ordering PA, a few lighting bits, and a new controller.   Thanks to all who make this site so great…

    #1027679
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    LOL, in follow-up to the other post where we discuss your next choice of controllers, I read here “balanced outputs are a plus”. I think you might wanna re-think that one.

    If you are serious about getting out in the real world and playing gigs connected to serious PA’s, balanced outputs become a must. As I explained in the other post because of the fact that the signal is much higher but also because of all kinds of other things that won’t bother you when using balanced cables (better connectors, XLR even with locking mechanism, better cable in general, no interference, longer cable runs possible).

    And as a bonus, the house engineer will take you (a little) more serious if you can come in and ask him if he needs XLR or Jacks instead of coming in with an RCA to RCA lead :-).

    Greetinx.

    #1027692
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Yes the SR and SX both have the same jogs as CDJ 850/900 style and those have breaks on backspin, so they will stop spinning immediately not letting you do vinyl style backspins.

    The only Pioneer controller that can do them is (untested yet) by specs the DDJ-SZ.

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