Personal Opinions on Sync Button
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March 28, 2013 at 3:57 pm #38473
Daryl Northrop
ParticipantAgreed the arbitrary bans on [insert component name here] can go screw off. Silly me. I thought promoters and club owners wanted people to have a good time and make money in the process? Thank goodness these equipment elitists are there to guard us against the horror of controllers and the sync button (which only other DJ’s care about).
BTW, I use a controller, and sometimes I use the sync button. Feel free to convulse in hate if you need to.
March 28, 2013 at 9:36 pm #38486Student_AZ
MemberEgos. Plain and simple. DJ so and so had to walk uphill sixteen miles in the snow to play a record back in the day. Now any youngster with a pc can play tunes in time by hitting a single key. How ridiculous!
That’s really how I feel about the entire thing. It’s the same for the circle jerk on a lot of message boards about how bad digital controllers are and why you should just buy antique CDJs instead of even top of the line units like the SSX. It’s just stupid and serves no purpose. But that’s kind of how online communities are in everything.. so, whattya gonna do?
March 29, 2013 at 5:53 am #38500NietzSKY
ParticipantAgain, I can understand vinyl vs. controller, but the CDJ vs. controller crew are just blowing my mind.
March 29, 2013 at 7:58 pm #38527Edwin Alvarez
Participanti agree NietzSKY it cracks me up! i got out of the DJ game years ago cause the tt guys woldnt shut up about the cdj guys. now its the cdj guys who act like elitist ! i dont care what medium or how the guy is matching those beats/mixing. If it sounds good thats all that matters!
March 30, 2013 at 9:27 pm #38552DJ Menno
ParticipantI was using sync in the beginning because I couldn’t beatmatch. Now I don’t like using it because the synced beatmatching isn’t tight enough in some cases (and I’m not gonna grid 4700 songs manually, that’s just not feasable…)
So for electronic mixing I go sync (there’s no point in beatmatching a fixed computer-generated rythm pattern anyway…it’s always gonna be 128.00 BPM), and for R&B, funk, disco, rock, I go manual beatmatching (primarily because the tempo is changing all the time).
Although I do love mashups and original ways of mixing, I must say I’ve seen to many DJ’s overdo the mash-up and other tricks… So you get to listen to 30 seconds of a song, and because the DJ is bored of hearing it, he switches or mashes up…
Makes me go “Hey ! I wasn’t finished enjoying that first song, I’m missing the bridge after the chorus !”
You just got to have taste, class, musical education, and character… and a sync button 🙂
March 31, 2013 at 4:36 am #38571JPtheGeezer
ParticipantDJ Menno wrote: You just got to have taste, class, musical education, and character… and a sync button 🙂
Well said man!
April 5, 2013 at 12:30 am #38805Reverse Effect
ParticipantThe sync button is a great tool… I love it and use it.
But.. beatmatching is an often needed skill to make a difference.April 5, 2013 at 12:44 pm #38824Richard Driver
ParticipantD-Jam, post: 38628, member: 3 wrote: I agree with learning beatmatching for when the sync fails you or when you can’t use your setup. However, I don’t like it when promoters or clubs try to play this “limitation” thing. The reason is they only limit themselves. So if they are staunchly anti-laptop, but the new hot act in town is a laptop mashup king…their competition will win because they will book them.
In my eyes this all comes back to how many heads you bring in. If a “keepin it real” night at one club is empty, partially empty, or a sausagefest…then they’ll lose to the “as long as it works” event that perhaps brought out new talent and pandered to women.
thing was d-jam, played at the 311 formally know as the victor hotel and the owner would not let me bring my controller in. yup, he had a serato box and all, but i was told last minute that i could not bring the gear i had. he had all ev pro gear and it was banging! so i played my hr and half slot by burning cds on the fly (showed up hr early) and going back to my roots of beat matching and i killed it. point is, if you do small bars and lounges, yup you can get away with what ever gear you like. you try and play at the castle or v-live, better have your cds or/and the lappy. i just felt more of a staple to the other djs that were there and asked “where is your laptop”. came with 6 cds and my head phones and shut it down. cats were like dams! bottom line, to the newbies, adapt and overcome or get overrun. 1+1 will always equal 2. if there is no calculators allowed, how are you going to react? fundamentals!
April 5, 2013 at 5:27 pm #38846Edward Manuel Jr
ParticipantNietzSKY, post: 38656, member: 4553 wrote: Again, I can understand vinyl vs. controller, but the CDJ vs. controller crew are just blowing my mind.
..and even those staying with vinyl are still rocking glorified controllers at the first moment they lay down a platter of control vinyl. Let’s have a show of hands of those who would rather lug 5 crates of vinyl up a flight of stairs than a pocket-sized hard drive. (and the room is completely silent…)
April 5, 2013 at 6:25 pm #38848Dj Emazing
ParticipantThis is basically more aimed at the djs who use controllers, but that is technology for you. As everyone says its a tool you have and option to use it if you want/ not to use it. Old school djs don’t like it and that is fine with me, so to the old school djs stop using the laptops and start carrying your vinyls, crates and cds packs cause I don’t like it when old school djs use a laptop… Point said.
April 6, 2013 at 5:04 am #38854Edwin Alvarez
Participantim old skool:) since 87′ been at this, still have my 1200’s in the basement. with tons of wax collecting dust.
long gone are the days of carrying all that heavy gear! i can beatmatch, scracth,etc…. but guess what i use the sync button all the time i dont feel the need to impress anyone (not anymore) i used to beatmatch by speeding or slowing down the record from the center. no pitchsliding! cant even tell you how many records i counted the bpm on!
April 8, 2013 at 7:47 pm #38940DJ Chris Cornell
MemberBeing a one of the newbs to this…I think they both serve a purpose because I,initially, learned on CDJs (Which I own) and then bought a T1 controller. Not because of the sync, but because I like the visualization of the music on my laptop. I’m a digital age kid and hearing and then being able to see things makes things click in my brain. I think learning both is important, but I use the sync button when I do my club gigs, because I’m still honing my skills and craft. There’s nothing wrong with using the tools to help you become great and put your flare on things. I’ve been doing this for less than one year and have my first audition for club residency and out of state gigs bookings, and i use my controller all the time.
However, I think it’s important to say that the sync button doesn’t always work 100% of the time. I constantly find my self manually beat matching songs as I que them up. The sync button aids me in some ways, but it’s not something to ever solely rely on. So it seems like a ridiculous argument, because you will always need to know how to beat match on some level…
“Work smarter…Not harder” 🙂
April 8, 2013 at 10:11 pm #38948Dj Emazing
ParticipantAnother note, I personally use the sync button to match bpms(not the songs or tracks on the grids while it’s playing) reason being their is always an annoying female with her stupid request thus making it easy for me to mix or blend.
April 8, 2013 at 11:36 pm #38952Redblock
MemberI can understand perfectly why people hate on the sync button so much- I was one of the “vinyl or die” types until the past couple years. You know why? Because I was scared. I saw this new technology come in to play that threatened to make my years of hard work learning to beatmatch obsolete, and I was mad about it. “Now that beatmatching isn’t enough, what will I do? Who just wants to listen to beatmatched sets now?” I thought to myself. The reality is there are two options- up your game and make your sets kick more ass than they ever have, or sit back and cry while the rest of the world moves on, sync or no sync button.
April 10, 2013 at 5:47 am #38996Robby Luca
ParticipantThere’s a lot more to DJing than beatmatching. Clearly the better DJs know how to beatmatch without a sync button, but it doesn’t matter in the end. What matters is that the DJ does his job and not be boring or lame.
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