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  • #1011640
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Go to a club. Have shazam or soundhog installed on your smartphone. When a track pops up you like, hit the app and save the song to your wishlist.
    At home go through your wishlist and search with google for that song and genre.
    Soon you will (eventually) see a pattern in what genres you like.
    Discovering genres cannot be told in my experience. You have to feel them out develop a spirit for them and then learn to understand. It is nothing that can simply be told.
    For example I like dubstep, but the dubstep I play is largely different from most dubstep you find in the top40 lists and sometimes does not even include the wobbles by which some identify dubstep…

    #27870
    DeeJay SiBoogie
    Participant

    If a track I like fits in my set I’ll play it I tend to play Deep, Soulful and Tech House but I’ll drop a Dub step or Dancehall or anything that will spice it up and keep the floor moving. I bought tracks that were labelled as Tech House but to me sounded more like Dub Step or Soulful house that was more like Tech House. A lot of tracks will have mixes crossing over several genres. So I don’t really get hung up on genres I use long transitions and/or short samples and loops to make my own sound. The best DJ’s apprieciate all musical genres and will take what the need to make what they want.

    #1011661
    aaron altar
    Participant

    Sounds to me like you like trance. Probably progressive trance. Start there and see what you find. Like all genres trance can be subdivided into a lot of subgenres. It might take you awhile to find exactly what you’re looking for.

    #1011686
    Tony Youll
    Member

    I agree with Terry 100%, using Shazam has saved me from many sleepless nights of searching the net for a specific song, it’s seriously a DJ’s life support machine. Also, as far as genres go, the lines of “which genre is which” are being washed away by the second. You can hear a song and it will have the elements of so many genres in, the low bass, the highs, the soulful chilled section and then smash you in the face with a crazy wobble.

    In my personal opinion, its impossible for somebody to just say “I ONLY like [insert genre here]” because I can guarantee they will have a song in their crate that has aspects of another genre, and that aspect will sound like a specific song from another genre, they will be shown that song and instantly love it.

    In my eyes, you need to stop thinking about specific genres, and just play what you love. I could be playing some house music, and if the mood feels right (and with the right prep and build up) bring in a heavy dubstep track.

    It’s all down to you

    #1011687
    John Palacio
    Participant

    Tony Youll, post: 28066, member: 577 wrote:

    In my eyes, you need to stop thinking about specific genres, and just play what you love. I could be playing some house music, and if the mood feels right (and with the right prep and build up) bring in a heavy dubstep track.

    It’s all down to you

    Thanks, Tony. And actually, I have no doubt that I will be diverse as I mix up the genres that I *play*. Rather, I had initially asked this question hoping to find what sounds I like.

    I think, mayhaps, I’ll just continue to explore everything then narrow down from there. Eventually I will pick up that I don’t like (insert whatever genre) but love (insert another genre), etc. etc.

    Also, hopefully the songs I buy will have a genre tag attached to them to provide some road signs along the way.

    Thanks!!

    #1011688
    Tony Youll
    Member

    [quote=”Also, hopefully the songs I buy will have a genre tag attached to them to provide some road signs along the way.

    Thanks!!

    The majority of songs you buy will have provided they have been bought from legitimate sites (Beatport, iTunes)

    Just stick to what you enjoy playing, and everything will fit together with time bro!

    #1011689
    John Palacio
    Participant

    Tony Youll, post: 28070, member: 577 wrote: [quote=”Also, hopefully the songs I buy will have a genre tag attached to them to provide some road signs along the way.

    Thanks!!

    The majority of songs you buy will have provided they have been bought from legitimate sites (Beatport, iTunes)

    Just stick to what you enjoy playing, and everything will fit together with time bro!

    Good to know. I definitely do buy my songs from legit sites, so I’ll check for that.

    Thanks, for the encouragement, Tony!

    #1011758
    Reason808
    Participant

    Even to some of us old hands, genres are confusing. I never understood the difference between hip-hop vs. rap or Drum and Bass vs. Jungle. One DJ’s deep house could be another’s minimal tech, and so on. Some people can get very pretentious and snobby about these distinctions, but don’t let that fool or discourage you.

    If that wasn’t confusing enough, people will mis-label genres constantly. I remember a very bohemian salon hairstylist call a distinctly 2-step track “house.” I surprised at the mistake, this was a person who listened to cutting edge music all day long and had a very cool clientele that was very conscious of the latest trends.

    #1011759
    John Palacio
    Participant

    Lol, wow you guys. I am in bad shape. Look how bad I effed up quoting Tony’s message in my reply back to him. I don’t even know how I did that. WTF???? 😛

    #1011966
    Phil Morse
    Keymaster

    I prefer to ignore genres too. Some interesting stuff can have you scratching yourself wondering what genre it belongs in anyway – that’s why it’s interesting!

    #1011968
    Tony Youll
    Member

    John Alexander, post: 28141, member: 3847 wrote: Lol, wow you guys. I am in bad shape. Look how bad I effed up quoting Tony’s message in my reply back to him. I don’t even know how I did that. WTF???? :p

    Don’t worry bro, my message wasn’t so good either. And I 100% agree Phil. If you enjoy it, it fits the mood and the crowd can dig it. Drop whatever you feel. I’ve heard guys who switch genres constantly. I did a one hour set last night and went through at least 5 obvious genres in an hour. God knows how many ‘sub-genres’ I touched on.

    #34776
    John Palacio
    Participant

    Thanks everyone. I’m starting to discover I don’t like what I describe as “endurance” songs, but what may actually be called “trance”. Songs that sound like you should be driving down the autobahn at night at a constant speed…forever. Or songs that make me feel like I should be staring at one of those screensavers where you are shooting forward through outer space. They seem to have no “drops” or structure and they all pretty much sound alike (to me, anyway). I get so bored listening to that music and I can’t even imagine trying to dance to it for an hour straight.

    Although, yes, there are probably elements of it in some songs I like, but those also have “builds” (correct term?) and “drops” to make you feel the music change.

    Just my two cents on this type of music.

    #34823
    Michael Lawrence
    Participant

    John Alexander, post: 28010, member: 3847 wrote: Hello everyone,

    Recently my world has been opening up to the dance music scene and I desperately want to get involved in what I call “the movement”. The music is better than any drug or buzz that I could hope to get and I just want to pursue that rush even further.

    So, I need some help as I start to hew my path into this overwhelming musical universe that we all must traipse through.

    Can you please offer some advice as to where I can EFFICIENTLY experience, and therefore, begin to understand the distinctions between the different genres of EDM?? I am asking this because right now I know what I like when I hear it, but I have no idea which genre what I’m hearing might fall into. And I feel like this is CRITICAL in my pursuite of building both my library and my own personal style.

    So, for instance, I love the club tracks that build to that crescendo like a rollercoaster and then drop a rhtymic synth sound that just lights the place on FIRE! But, alas, do I call that “house” or “progressive”? What is trance? What is the difference between electro house and “techno”.

    What has been happening is that I go onto Beatport or Mixcloud and search for tunes. But as I’m doing this I’ll search electro and not find the synth sounds that I’m looking for. I’ll search progressive but not find something that gets me that “amped”. Are the great, blood pumping tracks really so rare?

    I just need some guidance so that I’m not barking up the wrong tree so often.

    Thanks in advance!

    Perhaps check out some tracks by wolfgang gartner. He is an electro artist and a great one at that. He is famous for his unique use of synth sounds and theres normally alot of build ups in his tracks. Check out:

    Bounce
    Flexx
    Front to Back
    Illmerica
    Play Dub
    There and Back

    Those are just a couple of my favourite tracks by him. Cold Blank, digitalism make good electro sounding tracks as well.

    #34849
    TheReturn
    Member

    John Alexander, post: 28010, member: 3847 wrote:

    What has been happening is that I go onto Beatport or Mixcloud and search for tunes. But as I’m doing this I’ll search electro and not find the synth sounds that I’m looking for. I’ll search progressive but not find something that gets me that “amped”. Are the great, blood pumping tracks really so rare?

    I just need some guidance so that I’m not barking up the wrong tree so often.

    Thanks in advance!

    This won’t help you with your genre, but it will help you with your searching problem.

    1. When you do find a track you like, try and find what label its on and then search through that label. They are quite likely to have similar stuff.

    2. When you find an artist you like, try and find their mixes onlune. It is likely they will DJ similar stuff to what they produce. You can get tips there.

    3. If the producer hasnt put out much else or is on a small label, then search for other DJ mixes, and charts for that song, its likely the other songs will be similar.

    Cheers

    Cheers

    #34871
    Daryl Northrop
    Participant

    http://www.trackitdown.net/

    Try this site – it has genre links across the top, and you can sample a huge array of music. WARNING: this site may cause you to go broke 🙂

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