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  • #2045642
    DJ Vintage
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    Beg?

    #2045664
    King of Snake
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    Hi Cheeku,

    Another idea would be to look at the novation twitch.
    It will give you serato (you can map also to vdj) and is supported by Ableton live.
    Maybe just check that one, I have the feeling it will match with what you want to do…

    Show your passion to your dad, he will understand…

    #2045821

    @King Of Snake- I have already looked into the twitch but my main reason to buy a controller is to get jogwheels. Otherwise I would prefer buying a MIDI Keyboard.

    “Beg?” haha, not really, I just want to know how to ask him. How to explain what a Controller does?

    #2046315

    This is how I picture the conversation:

    Me: I was wondering if you would buy me a Numark Mixtrack Pro 2?
    Dad: Whats that?
    Me: It’s a DJ Controller.
    Dad: Whats a DJ Controller?
    Me: Something that controls DJ software.
    Dad: Can’t you just use your keyboard and mouse for that?
    Me: Well yes, but..
    Dad: So why do you need a DJ Controller?
    Me: ….?….?

    Any ideas?

    #2046345
    DJ Vintage
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    Well dad, that is actually a great question and I am glad you asked it.

    Let me put it this way. Let’s say you bought a professional enhanced driver course to use on your computer. You can steer with the arrow keys, brake with the .-key and accelerate with the + key. During the course you also have to do things like adjust mirrors, set cruise control, pull the handbrake for special moves. All of these CAN be done with the keyboard and the mouse. Now imagine that, after a while of trying to do this keyboard/mouse only and understanding what it is you need to do to be succesful and pass the course, you find that having just a keyboard/mouse to operate all the options in the course is just not enough.

    Now, imagine someone made a console with a chair, a steering wheel, brake, gas and clutch pedals, rearview mirrors (with little screens showing what goes on behind you), a stick shifter and a dashboard full of relevant buttons and meters (like speed and rpm). Don’t you think you would do infinitely better if you had that CONTROLLER for your driving course?

    Well, the same is true for DJ-ing. It can be done with keyboard and mouse, but it can be done so much better with a controller.

    So, you’ll get me a Mixtrack Pro 2?

    #2046496

    Dad: Well put, son. By when do you want it?

    Thanks DJ Vintage. Another thing, my friend has some old pad controllers (An AKAI LPD8 and a Korg Nanopad) which he is willing to lend me. How would I use these along with my controller?

    #2046518
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Not big on pad use myself. But triggering samples and such is what they are generally used for. I’ll leave the details to others on here that have actual user experience with these pads.

    #2047364

    Just today, I met a producer online who had many different pad controllers, control surfaces and MIDI keyboards attached to his computer. My question is, after being blown away by his setup (nothing too great, but an effective setup nonetheless), is that what benefits does a modular DJ setup have over an All-In-One controller setup? Since I’m only looking for Jog-Wheels, is it wise to still go for an AIO or buy different controllers for each function? What do I gain from a modular? And what do I loose?

    [My Exams are over and they went really well, I’m super excited for the results]

    #2047365

    Please also note that I”m also the “geeky-guy” who loves to mess around with mappings and stuff. I have absolutely no issues mapping any controller to Virtual DJ.

    #2047378
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Depending on what you need the jogwheels for (and you don’t need the mixer bit), I’d say this is a very good bet:

    http://www.bax-shop.nl/digitale-dj-controller/denon-dj-dn-sc2000-digitale-dj-midi-controller?gclid=CIS3pcbP7b8CFXDKtAodMloAew

    It’t like one controller part of an aio. You can get two if you need them, but one unit will let you swap between controlling two decks. It has all the bits and pieces to it, including dedicated filter knob, browser button, 2x FX channel, loop buttons, cue buttons (4+4), long pitch fader and the same jogwheel as the MC6000.

    It would fit great in a modular setup depending on your needs and goals. Worth checking out. I have one (use it next to my computer keyboard for quick practice sessions or when beatgridding track) and I can vouch for the quality. Built like the proverbial and usual Denon tank. Obviously there is no soundcard in it, but that isn’t a problem in a modular setup.

    #2047407

    That looks very promising and appealing but it’s not available in India…Just my luck.

    I’m looking for the advantages and disadvantages of a modular system over an AIO. I haven’t fully understood the concept yet. I’ll decide the gear later after I’ve understood what a modular system actually is! Thanks.

    #2047411
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Modular means consisting of modules. So where a typical AIO has the following components in one box: 2x controls/decks, 1x mixer and usually 1x built-in soundcard, a typical modular setup will have 2x control module (or 1 module, the Native Instruments X1 for example has two channels of control in one box, just no jogs) and 1 mixer module (most likely with a soundcard built in). So in essence there isn’t all that much difference, especially since recently most AIO controllers also have a number of performance pads. If you have modules, it’s obviously easier to place things where they feel best to you, whereas with an AIO you can only pick the spot for the entire unit, everything else is fixed in place.

    One example is that I know a few DJs (me for a while too) that enjoyed having both turntables (I am old, hence vinyl experience) on the same side of the mixer. So not TT-MIXER-TT, but TT-TT-MIXER (or the mixer on the other side). Controllers ALL have deck-mixer-deck. Let’s say I’d really want the old setup, then I would have to get modules. I could opt for two of the Denon’s I showed and a modular midi-mixer.

    The flip side of the modular coin is lot’s of extra cabling (you need to connect up every single module seperately) and lot’s of small boxes to carry around if you want to play out. So, in a fixed situation, like home studio, I’d say modular is easy if you want to do more than you can do with an AIO controller (like more production-like environment), for working gigs a AIO is easiest. Carry one case, set it down, plug in one or two cables and presto!

    At the end of the day, your purpose and workflow determine what will work best for you. That’s why we will usually advise on here to make gear the last part of your decision, not your first 😀

    #2047467

    Will a laptop, A Gemini FirstMix i/o, A Novation Launchpad/ Launch Control, An AKAI LPD8 and a tablet running TouchOSC be good enough for my first gigs??

    Later, once I have made enough money from DJ’ing, I can upgrade to a MacBook. Is that fine?

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