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    bob6397
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    Questions:
    -should I let iTunes do all the work of organization my music? If not, what do you recommend. I’m not sure I get the folders organization.

    I do. iTunes puts all of my music into the format it likes (folders by artist, then album) and it works for me. I organise all my tracks using the metadata and auto-playlists. Meaning that anything I tag also works in Virtual DJ.. It all just sort of works 🙂

    -when importing my CDs which format should I choose (file size is not a problem)? Considering the software I’ll be using, that I get my music mostly from CDs and iTunes(AAC 256), sometimes from bandcamp or directly from producers and that I’d prefer not to have too many formats.

    As you are on a Mac, I would consider ALAC – which is lossless, smaller file sizes than WAV/AIFF, has metadata, and works on Mac (unlike FLAC, an equivalent format). ALAC files will also sync to Android or IOS if you have any on your phone..

    If using downloads from various sources, you can’t help what format they are supplied in. My library is a combination of MP3’s – most of my CD collection was ripped before file sizes weren’t an issue – and AAC files downloaded through iTunes. All are high enough quality to play out but very few are lossless.. Keep it to at least 320Kbps MP3 files or 256Kbps AAC files as a minimum.. Lossless is of course better but you would struggle to hear the difference.

    -how do I proceed? Import through iTunes then MIK and Platinum Motes?

    I would run the tracks through Platinum Notes, then MIK and then import into iTunes – so you don’t end up with either 2 versions of the same track or unprocessed tracks in your library. I personally don’t use either tool but I am considering getting Platinum Notes..

    -the tags (genre, bpm…)before or after MIK and PN?

    Either.. It shouldn’t really make a difference – but MIK will alter the tags of some tracks so before might be the better option so you don’t end up changing any of them? If you are using iTunes to do the tags though, I would do it after to save having to import over and over.. Make the system as simple as possible.

    -anything else I should do?

    Keep it simple. The more complex you make your system, the less likely you are to still be doing it in a few month’s time. Work out a quick, easy solution now and save yourself a headache when you have to re-do tracks down the line because you decide to change the way you do it. If it feels tedious now, you won’t still be doing it later on.

    Hope that helps,

    bob6397

    #2265741
    DJ Wyld1
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    As you are on a Mac, I would consider ALAC – which is lossless, smaller file sizes than WAV/AIFF, has metadata, and works on Mac (unlike FLAC, an equivalent format). ALAC files will also sync to Android or IOS if you have any on your phone..

    I don’t think this is accurate. I don’t think the Mac OS cares what file format you use. iTunes doesn’t have a FLAC codec, so it doesn’t know what to do with the file. So IF you use a 3rd party tool like dBpoweramp for instance; you COULD rip to FLAC, use PN & MIK to process the files ending up with a normalized source library with key, bpm and genre information on it.

    In order to use the library in iTunes; you would need to convert the files to an iTunes friendly file format (MP3, AAC, ALAC or AIFF). This would be extra work for you if you plan on using iTunes for library management. IF you choose to use iTunes to import the CD and the process the file after with PN & MIK; I’m not entirely sure how the file would get updated in iTunes.

    should I let iTunes do all the work of organization my music? If not, what do you recommend. I’m not sure I get the folders organization.

    Every tool used to copy the CD files onto your hard drive has options on how you want to save the files. Most use a file structure that has the Artist (AC/DC) as the first folder and then the Album (Back in Black) as a sub folder and the individual track titles (Hells Bells) would be inside the folder (this is just an example and the file structure is determine by how you tell the tool you use to organize your music).

    Here’s a screen shot of what I’m talking about.
    Screeny
    http://i62.tinypic.com/30jrzwm.png

    #2265761
    DJ Wyld1
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    Personally, I don’t use iTunes. I never have, but that’s just me. I won’t bash iTunes because I don’t use it. I just don’t own very many Apple products and iTunes doesn’t appeal to me as a Windows user. Again, that’s just me.

    If you already use iTunes and you’re familiar with how it works or like the way that it does a lot of work for you; then you should probably stick to what you know. Importing the music through iTunes saves you from having to convert the file later.

    Apple makes really good products and their software is far more stable than anything Windows has ever produced so that’s why there’s many people here who use iTunes and there’s a ton of DJ’s out there who will only use a Mac Book to DJ with.

    #2265831
    bob6397
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    DJ Wyld1 – I was simply assuming that if he wanted to use iTunes then recommending FLAC would be a little counter-intuitive…

    I am a Windows user and I use iTunes to manage everything – mostly because it syncs with my iPod and it syncs with Virtual DJ without any extra effort..

    The way I would import tracks in this situation would be to use Audio grabber (or equivalent) to put them all into a temporary folder. I would then run them through MIK/PN etc. and then import into iTunes, which then stores the files in a decent folder layout. Then delete the originals.. 🙂

    bob6397

    #2265841
    DJ Wyld1
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    DJ Bob – I was merely pointing out that it wasn’t the OS and that it was iTunes that doesn’t support FLAC.

    I would agree that If he chooses to use iTunes for library management then the ALAC format would be a more convenient option in which no additional conversion would be necessary.

    #2267011
    DJ Vintage
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    Ok folks. While I’ll be the first to say that iTunes is the worst product ever to come out of Cupertino, it IS the only software for track management that has just about anything a DJ needs and that is supported by all major DJ software platforms. This makes it infinitely more suitable for DJs than stuff like MediaMonkey or other music management software.

    RekordBox I would say is the only serious alternative to iTunes, if – and only IF – you want to stay with RekordBox enabled hardware. Which was really only some CDJs until recently and now of course with the arrival of RB DJ can go on your laptop too and have you using your favorite (Pioneer for at least another year) controller.

    I would have to side with Wyld on being able to rip to FLAC to store your originals in. Then running everything through PN and setting the output file to a more iTunes friendly format. If you decide to stay with RB, you can just keep FLAC as output too.

    Again, a lot of it is personal preference. IF you are gonna use PN before adding tracks to your DJ track management software, then it really makes no difference what format you rip in. Even WAV will do nicely, when space is not an issue.

    #2267191
    Maxime Toupin
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    Thanks a lot guys very helpful tips. A lot of work ahead ?

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