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  • #42545
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Dj Emazing, post: 42696, member: 9575 wrote: I just fell in love with your setup…

    It’s a mix of my old and my backup gear :-).

    I have a Denon X1600 (midi) mixer and two SC2900 media-players, but the coffin isn’t quite ready yet. That is why I brought my “old” MC6000 and my “very old!” CD-players. For smaller parties and backup I’ll be bringing my iDJ Pro in the car. Especially now DJ Player has a mapping for it. Perhaps we’ll even see a Cross for iPad mapping for it too somewhere in the future :-).

    Greetinx,
    C.

    #42580
    Dj Emazing
    Participant

    Chuck van Eekelen, post: 42702, member: 2756 wrote: It’s a mix of my old and my backup gear :).

    I have a Denon X1600 (midi) mixer and two SC2900 media-players, but the coffin isn’t quite ready yet. That is why I brought my “old” MC6000 and my “very old!” CD-players. For smaller parties and backup I’ll be bringing my iDJ Pro in the car. Especially now DJ Player has a mapping for it. Perhaps we’ll even see a Cross for iPad mapping for it too somewhere in the future :).

    Greetinx,
    C.

    Nice I need to start buying some products from denon, I have to take a step away from numark so it’s going to be either Gemini, Pioneer or Denon.

    #42589
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    That is quite a wide spread. Gemini is essentially very good at producing decent quality Pioneer lookalikes (shoot me if I am over generalising guys!). Pioneer is, well, Pioneer. For me Denon is the ultimate “other” supplier. Prices are VERY decent, the quality is rock solid both electronically and physically.

    Wish you the best in your choices.

    Greetinx,
    C.

    #42601
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    I agree, love Denon for their CDJs and mixers, but I wish they would come out with a new innovative controller. Do not get me wrong the 3k and 6k are good, but they are becoming dated and I just would love something like the 6k with better jogs and made for Serato…. one can only wish.

    #42606
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Hey, we both know they are not all that marketing-driven (my only gripe with them, not strong marketing, not strong brand-building, not aggressive “let us in the booth”-attitude, techie-style webite, etx.). If it works and works well, we don’t need a new one that looks better/different/more up-to-date but doesn’t offer enough new functionality after only 2-3 years in the market. Which is good in a sense that if you choose Denon you don’t have to worry about your nice, shiney, new controller being outdated by MkII only 6 months later and bad because things tend to become a bit dated at times. There is a MkII 6000 out I think (they changed some of the switches on the back that I know of) but very hush hush. Didn’t know til I was looking for a picture of the connections on it online and saw they differed from my 6000.

    As far as the jog quality goes, what I understood (but I think they read this forum, so I am sure someone will correct me if necessary) the basic premise of Denon jogs on both the MC-series and the SC-2900 is to have direct platter/axis connectivity. I.e. no extra levers, cogs and other stuff between your fingers on the jog and the electronics that send the impulses. No extra wear/tear/defect points and nothing to create a less tight feeling. I find the MC6000 jogs pretty good, albeit a tad smallish. Especially on an already crowded controller. Quality-wise I don’t have too much gripe. Actually I think that underneath that big ole SC-2900 platter is the same technology as in the 6000. And the 2900 platter is tight enough for me :).

    Serato-support was important to me at one point because of a possible switch to something with better beat-gridding than Traktor (for my kind of music). Obviously my focus is now on finalising on Cross for that. I can see how it would help Denon to be more attractive though. Why not be the first one to offer out of the box full native HID factory support for Traktor, Serato, VDJ and Cross AND DVS support for all of them … wouldn’t that make for a neat platform?

    Greetinx,
    C.

    #43189
    Robert Quick
    Participant

    So I finally got around to installing the free version of cross. From what I’ve seen so far I like it!! I downloaded the remote app for my iPad as well which looks to be great as well!!

    Just a couple of questions: Have you used the automix much?? How well does it work?? Better than Traktor’s cruise mode?? The only gripe I have with Traktors cruise mode is that the volume levels when it switches songs are waaaay too loud (Brins track 2 all the way up to full volume, and then starts decreasing track 1’s volume).

    Is there an option to autoload the next song into a deck like there is in Traktor?? This isn’t a dealbreaker, but it’s a very nice feature to have.

    How well does it integrate with the MC6000/SC2900’s?? Have you used both at the same time??

    Overall it seem’s a lot quicker and more stable than Traktor, and I am really tempted to drop the £70 odd on it this weekend and play around with it.

    #43190
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Robert Quick, post: 43346, member: 2807 wrote: So I finally got around to installing the free version of cross. From what I’ve seen so far I like it!! I downloaded the remote app for my iPad as well which looks to be great as well!!

    Yep 🙂

    Just a couple of questions: Have you used the automix much?? How well does it work?? Better than Traktor’s cruise mode?? The only gripe I have with Traktors cruise mode is that the volume levels when it switches songs are waaaay too loud (Brins track 2 all the way up to full volume, and then starts decreasing track 1’s volume).

    Put it on once when going to the toilet. The problem with that is that I was paying attention to peeing, not to how well the automix was doing :). You could try setting the crossfader to constant volume before hitting autoplay.

    Is there an option to autoload the next song into a deck like there is in Traktor?? This isn’t a dealbreaker, but it’s a very nice feature to have.

    It’s one of the things I didn’t use in Traktor. My favorite setting (not seen anywhere though) would be for the deck to be cleared after a track finishes 🙂 (would even enjoy an eject button). I looked at the settings and there is not auto-load setting per se.

    How well does it integrate with the MC6000/SC2900’s?? Have you used both at the same time??

    I am way behind the try out curve atm (big 8 day course in July, holiday week and new project 3 days a week). So I can only tell you I tried the MC6000 mapping that comes with MixVibes and it worked flawlessly. I remember a few things be different from the Traktor/VDJ mapping, but nothing serious. The only thing worth considering is switching the play/sync button mappings if you plan on using the sync function in MixVibes more than regular play.

    Overall it seem’s a lot quicker and more stable than Traktor, and I am really tempted to drop the £70 odd on it this weekend and play around with it.

    Yep, as far as I DID have time to mess with it, I like it a bit more every time and discover new things too. Not sure where the 70 pounds come from. The DJ version (no DVS) is 49USD and the full version with DVS is 79 USD, still way less than 70 quid right.

    Greetinx,
    C.

    #43194
    Robert Quick
    Participant

    Thanks for the reply.

    Chuck van Eekelen, post: 43347, member: 2756 wrote: Put it on once when going to the toilet. The problem with that is that I was paying attention to peeing, not to how well the automix was doing :). You could try setting the crossfader to constant volume before hitting autoplay.

    I didn’t think about changing the crossfader curve in Mixvibes, I’ll try it out later and see what happens. Crossfader curve doesn’t make any difference in Traktor as it doesn’t use the CF to mix.

    Chuck van Eekelen, post: 43347, member: 2756 wrote: It’s one of the things I didn’t use in Traktor. My favorite setting (not seen anywhere though) would be for the deck to be cleared after a track finishes 🙂 (would even enjoy an eject button). I looked at the settings and there is not auto-load setting per se.

    Ok, thanks. Maybe a request to mixvibes then!!

    Chuck van Eekelen, post: 43347, member: 2756 wrote: I am way behind the try out curve atm (big 8 day course in July, holiday week and new project 3 days a week). So I can only tell you I tried the MC6000 mapping that comes with MixVibes and it worked flawlessly. I remember a few things be different from the Traktor/VDJ mapping, but nothing serious. The only thing worth considering is switching the play/sync button mappings if you plan on using the sync function in MixVibes more than regular play.

    I very rarely use sync, and I still need to figure out exactly how the sync function works in Cross. Is there snap and quantise in the full version of Cross?? I don’t see any settings for it in the free version.

    Chuck van Eekelen, post: 43347, member: 2756 wrote: Yep, as far as I DID have time to mess with it, I like it a bit more every time and discover new things too. Not sure where the 70 pounds come from. The DJ version (no DVS) is 49USD and the full version with DVS is 79 USD, still way less than 70 quid right.

    Greetinx,
    C.

    DJ version is $49.99, Cross with DVS is $99.99, which actually works out to about £83!!

    #43195
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    I stand corrected. Price for Cross I quoted (and which I paid) was 79 euro. Should still be less than that in pounds I think.

    According to exchange calculator: 67,37 pound. So your 70 was about right :-).

    Hope I was more helpful with the rest of my reply 😀

    Greetinx,
    C.

    #43196
    Robert Quick
    Participant

    You have to add VAT onto the price. And the £ price it comes up with excluding VAT is £69.99, so £83.29 with VAT.

    Rest of the reply was great. I see from screenshots that Cross has snap and quantise.

    Have you managed to test it with the SC2900’s at all??

    #43197
    Robert Quick
    Participant

    Sod it, just ordered it. Will report back after I’ve got it all up and running!!!

    #43198
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    LOL … it’s a survivable amount at the end of the day. It’s what I did too. Figured worst case I’d end up dining out one night less that month.

    Good luck & look forward to your report!

    Greetinx,
    C.

    #43199
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Here’s the link to the SC2900/SC3900 Hybrid mode manual:

    http://usa.d-mpro.com/DocumentMaster/US/DNSC3900_DNSC2900_ENGLISH_1.pdf

    That way you don’t need timecode CD’s.

    Native support for MixVibes according to this manual:

    5. To select other DVS DJ application control
    signals, continue to turn the Parameters knob to
    select, 2.0kHz, 2.5kHz, 1.2kHz, 3.0kHz
    o Select 2.5kHz for – Traktor Scratch v2.5
    or higher
    o Select 3.0kHz for – MixVibes Cross

    #43201
    Robert Quick
    Participant

    Chuck van Eekelen, post: 43355, member: 2756 wrote: LOL … it’s a survivable amount at the end of the day. It’s what I did too. Figured worst case I’d end up dining out one night less that month.

    Exactly, it’s not a huge outlay in the grand scheme of things.

    Thanks for the info above, I had already read the manual through and figured out I needed the 3kHz signal.

    Just had a quick 10 min test in my lunch break (The luxuries of working from home!!).

    Once I figured out how to assign a mapping to a MIDI device, it worked perfectly. MC6000 syncs up perfectly for navigation and deck control. SC2900 (only tested 1) worked perfectly in both MIDI mode and DVS hybrid mode. Hybrid mode seems the better option as you still get the LED ring working, unlike in MIDI mode. Managed to turn my latency down to 256 samples (Used to have it at about 768 in Traktor) and it worked fine for the 10 mins I played around with it!! Will obviously need a bit more testing before using at a gig.

    Have you ever edited any of the MIDI maps for Cross?? There are a couple of things I want to change on the MC6000 mapping: Not control the master volume by default, and the same for the cue/mix knob.

    #43241
    gullum
    Participant

    Robert Quick, post: 43358, member: 2807 wrote:
    Have you ever edited any of the MIDI maps for Cross?? There are a couple of things I want to change on the MC6000 mapping: Not control the master volume by default, and the same for the cue/mix knob.

    If only want to make changes to knobs that have no led feedback it is really simple to mapp. You make a copy of the offical midi mapper then it’s as simple as finding the function you like to map press the green + and turn the knob then choose how it should behave press ok.
    led feedback needs to be done in an XML editor though.

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