Home 2023 Forums Digital DJ Gear Mixtrack Pro 3 vs Beatmix 2 mk2 vs DDJ SB2 – Best buy DJ Control for Traktor?

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  • #2482001
    Terry_42
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    Easy answer: NONE

    Only original Traktor Native Instruments controllers are currently good for Traktor.

    #2482431

    +1 on that.

    #2482441
    Stephen Iddison
    Participant

    Used a Denon mc3000 for a while then tried a S2mk2…went back to Serato.

    #2482471
    Miljan Pavlovic
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    You are killing me guys 🙂

    I do agree that the original controllers are the best-buy for the certain software. All the 3 devices I mentioned are designed for Serato and that is a fact. But here I raise a topic on which one of the non-NI controllers and their mappings – work better with Traktor!?

    That issue goes with many people who are in pursue for their entry-level controller. Why? Not all of them do have/want to spend 400EUR on S2, but do want to stay with Traktor. Statistics and online comments say that there are more people using non-NI hardware with Traktor, than the ones using the original hardware. I do believe that this could be an interesting topic.

    Anyway, let me rephrase it – which one is the best buy? Mictrack Pro 3, Beatmix 2 mk2 or DDj SB2?

    P.S.Thanks for your efforts, I really do hope my positions and this conversation will help to not just your users, but DDJT staff with upcoming reviews as well. I really do appreciate your help and your point of views.

    #2482751

    When it comes to controllers there is no “best”. They all have their own features that determine if it can be the best for YOU. They all have the necessary features to get you through the first part of your DJ-ing career.

    As for Traktor, the reason there are a lot of non-NI controllers on Traktor still is because in the early days a few years ago Serato was a VERY closed system and Traktor was sold with many non-NI controllers. Since then Traktor has stopped working with 3rd party manufacturers of controllers and is more and more focusing on their own eco-system. And it’s not unthinkable that when the next big upgrade hits they might even exclude third party controllers altogether.

    Also, when you use non-NI controllers with Traktor the jog wheels will not function as well as with an NI controller.

    Finally, if you want to use non-NI (up-to-date) controllers with Traktor you are totally dependent on either the controller manufacturer and/or the Traktor community for mappings and such.

    This is also true for the R-series of Pioneer, which will work only with RekordBox, as opposed to (for example) the SX, which is optimized for Serato, but will work with VDJ, Mixvibes Cross, DJay Pro, RekordBox of course and many other programs, often natively.

    So, it’s just not a good decision to use those controllers with Traktor. Better to look for a used S2 or S2mk2 if you want to go the Traktor route. Plenty of them out there.

    #2484311
    Miljan Pavlovic
    Participant

    I’ve read many of your comments on similar topics and still don’t get why you avoid to say some devices are “better” or even “the best” in a certain category/class. I do respect the fact that choosing a controller is a prsonal thing (closely tight to personal mixing/software/hardware preferences), but what is the point of your reviews if we don’t make a difference!?

    I know many of us are bothering you with similar questions, but we’re here cause we trust your experience and judgement. So yes, I am aware on NI versus non-NI battle issues and dependence of online community, when it comes to Traktor mappings. But while some see that as a problem, for me is an opportunity. Without wide communication between users, we won’t be having better and lousier Traktor mappings, which implies that we do have hardware more and less compatible with Traktor. Let me give you Denon controllers as an example, which are the best compatibile with Traktor, comparing to others non-NI manufacturers. Of course, none of them will be the perfect replacement for NI controllers.

    Also, I have to stress that I asked for “the best-buy” advice on the 3 listed controllers in this topic. Not to discuss about “the best one”, cause it’s more or less impossible to come to a common conclusion. So, all 3 are officially matched with Serato only, but do have different prices. For me, it is hard to make the right choice, although I do know what I do need and what my preferences are:
    – Playing electronic music
    – Need an entry-level, but PRO controller
    – Proper Traktor mappings
    – I can settle with plastic, but not to plastic toys
    – Jog wheels not using for scratch
    – I could live with less than 100mm pitch faders
    – 4-deck control is not a must, but would be nice
    – At least 3 effects control buttons/knobs (prefferably controlled with a knob, more likely than with a touch strip)
    – Dedicated trim/gain knobs etc…

    So is an Xmas offer of $235 for DDJ SB2 in my hometown, the best-buy for me?
    Mixtrack Pro 3 is $220, Beatmix 2 mk2 is $265.

    #2484391

    Denon has a long history of being sold with traktor. The Mc2000 being an “old” controller was also natively supported. It’s the more recent controllers that suffer of the lack of traktor(-made or -approved) mappings.

    As for the “the best” issue, let me give you 1 or 2 examples of why you can not make this claim. Some of the controllers have gain knobs, which is very important is you don’t want to use auto-gain (good reasons for that by the way), but if you like auto-gain, having gain knobs has little added value. Same is true for dedicated filter knobs. Or for long or short pitch faders, or the number of performance pads and their modes, or the location of jog wheel and transport buttons. The more expensive (semi-)pro controllers will mostly have all the features but starter controllers will have one and not the other or vice versa.

    So, what I consider the best based on the features that I value the most, might not be the best based on your valued features.

    This is why we can’t/won’t give out a definite ranking (even if we don’t take the software into account), but prefer giving a shortlist of 4-5 controllers that are all very capable starter controllers and tips on how to define your desired features.

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