Mixed in Key 5.0 (is it worth the money 4 beginner dj's)
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August 12, 2012 at 3:15 am #1009568
Erik Toth
ParticipantThis is pretty much like many other things on the internet or in life.
It is useful, yes. Necessary? No.
All the info that MiK gives, you can find in other ways, too.
You can use free software to find out the key of the songs or use beatport to search the name of the song and check the key there. Or if you are using VDJ or got a copy of it you can check it there, too.
Thing is with MiK that it does what it does quickly and user friendly.
MiK check for keys gives you a nice little camelot wheel there you can click around and it shows your songs in that key that has been added to your collection.
The rest is up to you.
So if you want you can save your money and spend your time to get the same info. 🙂August 12, 2012 at 3:51 am #1009571Steelo
ParticipantA beginner shouldn’t even be thinking about this yet. MIK is for assisting with advanced harmonic mixing techniques, not for beginners to use as a crutch. Whilst it may make things easier, this is not the way to improve your skills.
August 12, 2012 at 12:42 pm #1009588Dean Logan
MemberHey.
Well I have been DJ’n since about Christmas so im a little bit more advanced than a beginner. I wanted 2 take my mixing to th next level now and really nail it and this seemed to be th programme for it. I thought mixing was all about harmonic mixing etc, Im sure a Adele song wont mix in well with Slipknot (thats an extreme example).
I just think its alot of money for something that I could get for free. Why all th cost?
August 13, 2012 at 7:02 am #1009607backtothefront
ParticipantDean Logan, post: 25759, member: 2944 wrote: Hey.
Well I have been DJ’n since about Christmas so im a little bit more advanced than a beginner. I wanted 2 take my mixing to th next level now and really nail it and this seemed to be th programme for it. I thought mixing was all about harmonic mixing etc, Im sure a Adele song wont mix in well with Slipknot (thats an extreme example).
I just think its alot of money for something that I could get for free. Why all th cost?
Greetings and welcome on board. Just a couple of points, glad you’re progressing well, but 8 months is still relatively a short time in terms of learning how to DJ, in fact, the learning process doesn’t really stop – you sort of suggest as much if you think ‘mixing is all about harmonic mixing’ – one element of a vast array of techniques/styles. Secondly I’m confused, why do you think you should get some software for free that people have spent time, expertise and money to create a product such as MiK, do you extend this to DJing software or music?!
This is not meant to be critical but you’ve received some good advice in the posts above but of course it’s up to you if you choose to take it onboard.
Cheers.
August 13, 2012 at 7:24 am #1009613Terry_42
KeymasterI was already DJing for 6 years before I started to take harmony classes (we had no mixed in key back then) and started to add some harmonic mixing.
I was not doing badly at all the 6 years before that.
Do I use mixed in key now? Yes I do, but I do not follow it as a religion. If I can I mix harmonically, but if I want a specific song for its energy or smth else, I do not care if it is in the correct harmony.August 13, 2012 at 11:55 pm #1009676Steelo
Participantbacktothefront, post: 25781, member: 1433 wrote: Greetings and welcome on board. Just a couple of points, glad you’re progressing well, but 8 months is still relatively a short time in terms of learning how to DJ, in fact, the learning process doesn’t really stop – you sort of suggest as much if you think ‘mixing is all about harmonic mixing’ – one element of a vast array of techniques/styles. Secondly I’m confused, why do you think you should get some software for free that people have spent time, expertise and money to create a product such as MiK, do you extend this to DJing software or music?!
This is not meant to be critical but you’ve received some good advice in the posts above but of course it’s up to you if you choose to take it onboard.
Cheers.
Well said.
August 14, 2012 at 12:49 pm #1009699Erik Toth
ParticipantDean Logan, post: 25759, member: 2944 wrote:
I just think its alot of money for something that I could get for free. Why all th cost?Answer is simple: It’s a tool. It cost that much money because a person has put time and effort into making that program into a user friendly reliable tool, that saves you time. Instead either using lots of time for looking up your track’s key or use an unstable or buggy free program…you have this.
That’s to answer why the cost.My story is like other ppl’s: I started without even knowing about harmonic mixing. I made my mixes strictly on what I wanted to put into the mix to tell the story or the message I wanted to give. When I couldnt “force” 2 tracks to work together….well it sucked.
I’m 100% sure that those mixes are quite far away from “harmonic mixing” but they did work.
So as stated above….it’s a tool and as all tools it’s there to help you but not make the work for you.
If you can afford it then get it if you feel that…if not…then you gonna be good without it, too.Good luck!
August 24, 2012 at 7:12 pm #1010195DeeJay SiBoogie
ParticipantA cheaper more comprehensive package is Beatunes. Think of it as ITunes for DJ’s. I loved the free trial so much I bought it 35 USD is a bargain. It does more than just find the key
September 3, 2012 at 9:41 pm #1011482Phil Morse
KeymasterI think MIK does a good job, it’s simple and fast. For those reasons I use it all the time.
September 4, 2012 at 3:02 am #1011511MatthewJones
MemberSo… I actually bought Mixed in Key. I’ve been learning for about the same time as you. I’ve actually found it useful…
I had been struggling to teach myself how to beat match. Like, sometimes no matter what I did it sounded like a train wreck, but I was never sure. I had read online that this can sometimes happen with key clashes. So whenever I couldn’t beatmatch right, I blamed it on a key clash and moved on.
The problem is that it made me lazy. Instead of looking at what I was doing I blamed it on the keys and figured it wasn’t me.
I bought MIK on a whim. Suddenly I couldn’t blame it on key clashes anymore because according to the “magic wheel” it should work.
This is the point where I discovered that everyone who claimed that the sync button doesn’t always work right wasn’t necessarily full of bunk. I started fighting with the track a bit more, discovered the importance of phrase matching, and suddenly the whole “beat matching” thing started to click!
So basically MIK allowed me to rule out key clashes and instead start focusing on why my mix wasn’t working. It also had the side effect of making my mixing more fun. I’ve been trying all kinds of crazy combinations just to see if I can make them work.
There was one I tried tonight… I think it was Derezzed by Daft Punk and Dance to the Music by Sly and the Family Stone. (Not sure, would have to look back). It was a bit out there, but in some parts it actually sounded cool! I wouldn’t play it for a live gig, but man… It’s fun to play around with.
I get what you guys are saying about it being a crutch. I respect the fact that I need to learn to do it the “right way”. What separates average from great is that extra 20% that nobody else bothers to do. I can now beatmatch entirely without the sync button and I’m way better off for it. I understand the same applies to harmonic mixing.
Anyway… I hope I don’t start an argument. I just thought OP would find my experience interesting. I am learning so much from these boards and I really appreciate all of you who share your knowledge so freely!
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