Is it ever too late?Can a Nobody become a success?
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May 24, 2013 at 8:57 pm #40714
Dirty Hippie
MemberDefining success is the hardest part of this question. I switched to digital after owning 1200’s for 8 years and never playing for anyone. 1 year later I have created a successful house party series (75-100 people in a town of 3000) and have a monthly spot at a club that I get paid for. I consider myself a success because I get to do what I love, I created new fans of the music I love, and I have a regular paying gig.
If you consider success in a different way, I still don’t think it is ever too late. People go back to college in their 30’s 40’s or 50’s and change careers, and become successful, Why should DJing/producing be any different? I heard someone say once that if you do what you love, that is the thing you would do if money was no concern, you will eventually become a master and and get paid for it. The trick is hard work, marketing, and persistence, all the while keeping your love for sharing what you love with other people.
May 25, 2013 at 9:58 am #40723D Homei
ParticipantThe Black Rag, post: 40863, member: 7330 wrote: it seems like it’s due to my age,like i started too late.
I thought the same thing in my 20’s.
I thought the same thing in my 30’s.
I started my 40’s thinking the same way. Then I finally stopped.
I sure wish I didn’t spend so much of my life thinking that way.I finally learned to embrace where I’m at. Its hard sometimes, but definitely worth it. As Dirty Hippie Said, success is relative. Even if you woke up tomorrow as the President of the USA, you could still wonder if you were a “successful” president.
Here’s another thing: Success feels great at any age. I went back to school in my 40’s and changed careers. I’ll never be a whiz kid again, but I’m happy with my success. (I’ve done senior creative work for MTV & Microsoft, have an MFA from one of the world’s best film schools, and now teach at a good university)
Can a nobody become a success?
Every successful person was a “nobody” at some point. But they weren’t really “nobodies” to begin with, the world just caught up with them. For every success milestone I’ve had (like a graduation, job offer, etc.) I was the same person I was the day before.
“Pursue excellence and success will chase you” That’s a quote from a great Indian movie called the Three Idiots. Just enjoy DJing, respect the craft, and eventually things will work out. You’re still starting out, 22 is still pretty young. Patience young Jedi.
May 25, 2013 at 10:58 am #40724Bojan Ljukovcanin
ParticipantDJ Homei, post: 40879, member: 5649 wrote: Every successful person was a “nobody” at some point.
I understand your point in this but i don’t think you understand what i meant when i said ”a nobody”,i didn’t mean it as just another average person,i meant it as in someone shunned by society who for most of his life had no friends,was considered a freak,someone who never got invited to parties,had no social life what so ever and was often told to go away if he mistakenly showed up to a social gathering.
DJ Homei, post: 40879, member: 5649 wrote: Patience young Jedi.
And i’m more of a Mandalorian.But i do really appreciate the Star Wars reference.
May 25, 2013 at 11:06 am #40725DJ Vintage
ModeratorFor all you young impatient ones out there, a quote that Tony Robbins uses has been very useful at times I thought my “career(s)” weren’t moving at any noticeable pace or bringing the expected results:
“We overestimate what we can do in 1 year and we underestimate what we can do in 10”.
So, keep hacking at it (practice DOES make perfect and succes is 5% inspiration and 95% perspiration after all) and look at the results you are producing. If the results don’t seem to bring you closer to your goal, try a slightly different approach. Repeat.
Good luck and greetinx,
C.May 25, 2013 at 4:17 pm #40727D Homei
Participantsomeone shunned by society . . . considered a freak . . . never got invited to parties . . . no social life what so ever . . . a bit of a black sheep
Sounds like the life story of most artistic/creative types during their formative years, particularly the famous ones. Certainly was the way I felt. Most people eventually you find their niche and a social scene without losing their values. It sure beats the isolated tortured artist life. For me it was liberating, and now people typically describe me as outgoing and friendly. If you want to be a DJ it may seem like a contradiction to be the “life of the party” when you feel you don’t fit in socially. But plenty of DJ’s I know are introverts. And glad you like the Star Wars refrence, even though it’s probably dated.
May 25, 2013 at 5:00 pm #40728Bojan Ljukovcanin
ParticipantDJ Homei, post: 40883, member: 5649 wrote: Sounds like the life story of most artistic/creative types during their formative years, particularly the famous ones. Certainly was the way I felt. Most people eventually you find their niche and a social scene without losing their values. It sure beats the isolated tortured artist life. For me it was liberating, and now people typically describe me as outgoing and friendly. If you want to be a DJ it may seem like a contradiction to be the “life of the party” when you feel you don’t fit in socially. But plenty of DJ’s I know are introverts. And glad you like the Star Wars refrence, even though it’s probably dated.
Star Wars will never be dated,and yeah i get it.Just seems hard to find a electronic scene where everyone is suffering from the ”Ghetto” complex.
May 27, 2013 at 3:23 am #40738Edwin Alvarez
Participantsounds like you have confidence issues
May 27, 2013 at 4:29 am #40739Robby Luca
Participantto become a DJ/producer… are you talking about being like Alesso, Afrojack, David Guetta, Deadmau5, Axwell, Deniz Koyu, Dirty South, etc? These guys are massive producers, that’s why they’re so big. Not because of their DJ skills. You need to start making good music if you want to play at Tomorrowland, Ultra Music Festival, EDC, and those sorts of places. It’s never too late. ESPECIALLY NOT AT 22… get serious!
EDIT: Just DJing won’t get you to play at UMF and stuff. People that go there want to see producers… not DJs.
May 27, 2013 at 9:43 pm #40744donnyboybelfast@yahoo.co.uk
ParticipantThe Black Rag, post: 40880, member: 7330 wrote: I understand your point in this but i don’t think you understand what i meant when i said ”a nobody”,i didn’t mean it as just another average person,i meant it as in someone shunned by society who for most of his life had no friends,was considered a freak,someone who never got invited to parties,had no social life what so ever and was often told to go away if he mistakenly showed up to a social gathering.
Peaking at high school may send you out in to the world with a lot of confidence, but the music industry (and many others) these days isn’t somewhere where you can get away with believing more in your self than your ability backs up. You will, no doubt, understand how flawed human nature is when you’re a bit older and you will see those judgmental @ssh0les for the pathetic, shallow worms that they are. Young people can be very cruel, they will follow confident fools to the ends of the earth, and a culture of judging and pidgeon-holing people quickly takes hold in many groups of young people. Don’t believe their judgement – there is no good reason why you should believe that they were ever qualified to judge you, what did they know, really, they were just kids and got kicks out of putting people down (because they thought that moved them up a rank).
The music world, electronic music especially, is full of people who didn’t fit in, who weren’t popular at school, many don’t even reveal their true identities, but still make a good living making music.
Nobody is ‘a nobody’ – popularity most likely came at a price if you think about it, fitting in with harsh, judgmental people who were cruel to those they looked down upon would have been required no doubt to fit in with the ‘popular’ crowd – you likely didn’t fit in because you weren’t prepared to be a d1ck – if they ever realise the truth about how they acted, then they’ll have to live with the regret.May 28, 2013 at 3:23 pm #40752ppt
MemberI like to chime my two cents in as this is a great topic!
Like OP I’m going through some social issues but that is because I’m a working full time 60 hours a week trying to get my business going. But there was that one day where I messed with some professional’s equipment when he was on break and the pool party crowd started loving it. What shocked me was the comments I got afterwards when I was kicked out by the actual DJ when he realized I was stealing his thunder!
“Dude that DJing what is what we needed man! Seriously we should call you DJ Extreme!”
“Wow that music selection was the best I’ve heard on this resort! Seriously their DJ should retire lol!”And this is me at 27, and I haven’t dj nada ever in my life! I think reactions like that just keep me going and even though I have yet to get a similar reaction because I don’t have a gig yet, I’m going to practice my darnest best so when the time comes. I will be there to truly appreciate it!
May 29, 2013 at 6:28 am #40766DJ Vintage
Moderator“When the time comes” has such an expecting feel to it. Like you are waiting for something to happen. The matter of the fact is that YOU are the one that has to make it happen. If you get creative and bold, you can always find a venue that is open on slow nights and have nothing by way of a (paid) DJ playing. Offer to play there monthly, bi-weekly or even weekly for a month or two (hard if you are jugling a 60-hour a week start-up as well, I understand). Stick some of those menu-holders on the bar with a text like “I DJ for tips” if you want :).
The thing is to get out there and be seen. If you are as good as the crowd reaction suggest, then you will actually start seeing people coming back for you, perhaps bringing friends to witness this great DJ. Before you know it, people will ask for you and the venue owner might want to give you a shot at a paid slot on the busy nights. Or someone might invite you to play paid at a private event.
Nobody’s gonna notice you practicing is what I am saying.
So, go out there and make it happen for yourself!
Greetinx,
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