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  • #1003174
    Pรคr Hessler
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    Well you have pretty much naild it yourself IMO!

    I think that it is like this in importancelevel.

    1 Play the right music in the right time (AKA Read the dancefloor)
    2 Mix IMO mix the music together in some way and mix the way you mix (BPM mixing is boooring after two hours)
    also mix genres, tempo and mix in anyway possible…..
    3 When you master the above 100% and want to add something, add Key (Mixed in key)
    But do not ever let the key mix be more important than 1 or 2…….

    When doing mashup key is a must, when doing mixtapes it is somwhat also rather good to get the mixes in key.

    Most people I know does not care a rats ass about mixing in key and they still rock the ass out of most DJs who do!

    Personaly I have all my tunes set up so I know what key they are and I work as above!
    If I want to play a tune that does not match in key I do play it anyway but then I know it does not match so I
    mix it in thinking of that. Otherwise it will not sound good if there is an accapella bit in the track currently playing and I mix in an instrumental part of the next song clashing in key…….
    That is one of the reasons it could be a good idea to get a copy of MIK even if you do not mix in key ๐Ÿ™‚

    It is IMO like BPM counters, loops, samplers and effects a tool to be used with care…..

    #16027
    Gerd Bauersfeld
    Participant

    DJ Hessler’s advice is the best you can get on this subject!

    #16032

    while mixing in key sounds great, i have found over the years that it doesnt make or break adancefloor, most people dont hear the key of a track, dance floors for the most part react to the beat (or bpm) and there for is the energy of the track that provides the bang, as i mainly play hiphop key really isnt all that important and so i dont bother with it

    #16066
    2SHAE!
    Participant

    thanks for the advice hessler…and from the rest of you as well. Like i said mostly hip hop and mainstream (unfortunatly thats my crowd). I know once i have the keys of all my tracks analyzed I will be trying to mix everything in key I can. its just a matter of it being neccessary at the point of my djing level; no nightclubs yet, just bars with about 120 cap.

    #16336
    Phil Morse
    Keymaster

    I think it’s more to give you another option and should’t dictate your mixes.

    #16526
    D-Jam
    Participant

    I agree with most of everyone here. I never used any key analyzing software, but just relied on my ears and how things heard to me when bringing them together.

    I never liked this new harmonic movement because I see too many of its followers trying to reduce DJing to mathematics. They analyze all their music and then stick to a very narrow ideology of what they’ll play and what they won’t play. In my book that’s not what good programming is. It’s about taking he crowds on a journey and trusting your ears and sense of taste when selecting tunes.

    Key IMHO is more important when you’re PRODUCING.

    #16796
    Phil Morse
    Keymaster

    D-Jam has a point. Crowds don’t mind key changes, it’s key clashes they don’t like, which you can avoid by mixing properly. Although I still love key mixing, it’s added a whole new dimension to my DJing.

    #16931
    indamix
    Member

    as a cluber and an Official party rocker ๐Ÿ˜€ i hate key clashes it distort my mood
    as a dj i love to have my mixing tracks key’s considered

    #16989
    gullum
    Participant

    I see it as quite important. if you beat match 2 songs and they melodies don’t blend it sounds to me as a kinder garden quire trying to sing the loudest instead of in tune ๐Ÿ˜€ But always ears first 2 A1 songs don’t always fit like a pair of socks ๐Ÿ˜€
    The most important is how the resault sounds not that they are in key.

    #16990
    Pรคr Hessler
    Participant

    Gulli Johansen, post: 17073, member: 847 wrote: I see it as quite important. if you beat match 2 songs and they melodies don’t blend it sounds to me as a kinder garden quire trying to sing the loudest instead of in tune ๐Ÿ˜€ But always ears first 2 A1 songs don’t always fit like a pair of socks ๐Ÿ˜€
    The most important is how the resault sounds not that they are in key.

    You can blend two songs that clashes together very well if one of them has a intro with just drums and no tones IMO!

    #16991

    imho.. mixing in key is a bit over rated..people hear beats.. and with effects (if one is into tweaking knobs) or by using loops creatively, you dont need the key of a track.. just rock the funky break, but im a turntablist so what do i know

    #16996
    Prototype1
    Member

    I think harmonic mixing is important in trance or any genre that is melody driven. Like Phil, I love harmonic mixing because it has allowed me to do more creative mixes like layering a breakdown on top of another one so they seem to be like one.. or 3 minute mixes for example.

    #16997
    IznremiX
    Participant

    i think everyone covered most of the bases but one thing I’d like to add: just because you don’t have your keys labelled doesn’t mean your not mixing harmonically. If you mix songs that sound good together (which you should probably be doing :p), chances are your mixing harmonically.

    #17015
    shr3dder
    Member

    When I play deep house, tech house or minimal I ALWAYS try to mix in key and I generally think a lot of people do notice at these gigs.

    When I play commercial house gigs I don’t really care and nor does the crowd.

    #17716

    mixing in key is great if you like long smooth mixes in techno, house ext. I created some pretty epic moments by mixing two heavy melodic tracks together in key. Though it shouldn’t be the most important thing, it sounds great to my ears and makes it sound so much smoother imo ๐Ÿ™‚

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