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  • #1006903
    J-Zed
    Participant

    EDM for life! SHM is the best house!

    (kidding)

    #1006905
    DJ
    Participant

    I get what you’re saying but it is EDM. Whereas techno as in “OMG I lovez techno” is an American misnomer, EDM is the overarching, catch-all term for music made with a computer rather than an instrument and that is produced with the purpose of playing out to a dance crowd. “Techno,” at least in America, is the term used by people who don’t know the music, not EDM.

    #1007387
    coupon
    Member

    ^agreed. too many people are acting like calling our music EDM is a crime but what else would we call it? we can’t call it house anymore.

    #1007407
    Steelo
    Participant

    Well dance music consists of more genres that just house so thats not exactly a fitting term for the music in general.
    Since I’ve known about it, it was and still is just referred to as ‘dance music’ and that works just fine for me. I don’t think I’d ever heard the phrase ‘EDM’ until a year ago.

    #1007707
    Phil Morse
    Keymaster

    I use EDM all the time, it used to get all called “techno” when it blatantly wasn’t, or “dance”, or “electronica”. To be honest, EDM is faster to type and when you write as much as I do, every little helps 😀

    #1011525
    Prude leRude
    Participant

    Is it not the case that ‘EDM’ has become a genre in itself? Whenever I hear people talk about it they’re generally referring to the type of stuff that Guetta / aviici etc. are making. I never hear it being used to describe d&b or dubstep…

    #1011538
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Actually the thing that Guetta et al are doing at the moment is no different than the Eurodance we had in the 90s.
    Sure the beats are more modern, the production is increased and let alone the sound quality of todays electronic equipment make their songs more “banging”. But dig into Eurodance like Snap, DJ Bobo, Centory, …. same thing. Why else do you think that “Turbo B” (ex-rapper of Snap) is on his revival tour… he is riding the EDM bus again…

    I am not saying that all of this is bad. Just a little history and I actually get some gigs, because I still have all that Eurodance hits digitized on my laptop… welcome to the 90s party.

    #1011556
    D-Jam
    Participant

    I think EDM is better than calling it all “techno” or “house”.

    The only people I notice who get miffed at the EDM label are those who feel like they lost their “special individuality” by being lumped into the massive realm of it all.

    Just because your favored music gets tossed into an arena with crappy cheese doesn’t mean your music took a step down or is any better/worse than it was.

    People see long hair and guitars and immediately think “rock”. Only a few go ballistic and get mad that their deathcore group ended up sharing a “term” with the Jonas Brothers or Poison.

    Just love your music and stop trying to fight to be “individual” or “unique”. It’s like I was told with hipsters. The true hipsters don’t run around letting everyone know they are hipsters.

    #1011583
    TheReturn
    Member

    I don’t really feel I need to use term to describe what I listen to or play. Just reeling off the genre terms seems to do the trick.

    #1011591
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    I agree and disagree with D-Jam at the same time 🙂
    I agree that if you are passionate about music you should not care and “just do it”.

    However there are 2 problems that I think justify a little genre hacking:
    1. Everyone wants to be special:
    I will try to find that article I once read. It tells that many “extreme” genres (pain industrial, electronic body trance, gothic trash industrial,…) are founded on the principal of lifestyle and being different. Now if people would not know what to call it, they would not be “in on the crowd”. I agree this has nothing to do with music, only with the fact of “being a special snowflake”, but it comes with the deal and many people come to such events because of being different rather than their love for that extreme music genre. Now you can argue that EDM is far from extreme, which I agree (in most cases) which brings us to prolem 2….

    2. Common language:
    Speaking (or writing) to one another in the same language can be very difficult even if you know all the meanings of all the words. Now with things we are passionate about meaning can turn. Now if I would simply tell you “well I play house a lot” you could possibly identify a direction I will prolly play, but I guess I could really surprise you what house can be (hey Guetta says he plays house…). So you have to get more specific if we are talking to people who know about it and again different to people who possibly do not even know what house is… EDM is just a term that is easily explained and that includes many genres. However many people will also misunderstand it because basically all you tell with the term is that “it is music that you can dance to and mostly played by electronic/computer instruments”. So the worst that can happen you talk to a club manager, tell him “well I play EDM”, he hires you on the basis of his understanding of EDM and during your gig he fires you, because of wrong expectations…

    #1011621
    D-Jam
    Participant

    How I handle it…

    I like to play and listen to house, techno, trance, breaks, big beat.

    Someone asks “what is that?”

    I answer that they’re all forms of electronic dance music.

    If one asks me what Ultra is, I’ll say it’s an EDM festival…simply because many genres are represented.

    #1012951
    DirtyDan717
    Member

    Honestly, if giving it a cute buzzword helps turn people on and start loving the music then I’m all for it. “Techno” always sounded cheap to me, and if I used the word “Jungle” or “Breaks” I had to spend 20 minutes explaining it. Let them get turned onto this “EDM” they hear about then progress to finding the different styles.

    Perhaps it’s for the best anyway, I fell away from electronic music for a few years but naturally gravitated back. It’s impossible to keep up with the insane amount of sub-genres that have sprung up in interim.

    #1013038
    DJ-Quantum
    Member

    I realize I may be jumping into deep water here, but being completely new to the whole (EDM) thing. What are the correct terms? Here is what I thought:

    • EDM: Overarching term for whole genre. (Like using the term “Rock Music” as a catch-all for all the sub-genres represented: [soft-Rock, hard-rock, symphonic-rock, southern-rock etc.]
    • Dance, Trance, Techno, House: Sub-genres within EDM (See above).

    Keep in mind I really am brand spanking new to current electronic music genre, having only recently taken an interest in it. So if the above is wrong, please feel free to correct me, as I am here to learn 🙂

    #29474
    Reason808
    Participant

    Nobody’s mentioned another big plus of the EDM term: distinguishing EDM from other genres of danceable music. Some people might only dance to Raggae, Polkas or World Music. Bob Marley and King Sunny Ade definitely ain’t EDM.

    Personally, I like EDM as a catch-all. DJ-Quantum, you have it pretty much right. If people want to get more specific they can call it house, breaks, etc.

    #1013180
    softcore
    Member

    I agree with with DJ-Quantum and I think most of the people think that is the correct usage of the term. Its just that EDM besides trance, Techno, House etc also includes “mainstream crap that is ‘pop’ in its target audience and philosophy” -possibly the reason the OP is sick of it.

    Usually, when non-knowledgeable people ask me what genre of music I play I reply Electronic Dance Music – when they go “I seeeeee, like Tiesto or Guetta huh?” I remain calm and reply “No, not this crap, but its hard to explain!” lol

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