I need help on picking out a digital Dj setup!
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October 25, 2011 at 10:20 am #9005
mr stifffy
MemberUse search on google…. There have been hundreds of threads on many sites on this topic, anything can be mapped anyway you want. Many people never really use the cross fader (I mainly use volume faders). Google launchpad and see what videos are around to see what it can do…
October 25, 2011 at 3:42 pm #1001985lockon stratos
MemberHey Travis,
Actually, ean golden has these tracks you can use in traktor with cue points, to sort of live remix songs, you should check out his s2 demo on youtube.
The launchpad is good for mashups, but you’re gonna want some more control.
If you want to go the little-button route, check out livid instrument’s controllers (http://lividinstruments.com/index.php) such as the Ohm64 or OhmRGB (for huge amounts of control) or the Block (which you should definetly check out). Otherwise, you’ll want the launch pad plus something. Preferably somehing with knobs and a crossfader, maybe a M-audio X-session (mixer lookalike) or a Novation Nocturn.
You could also compromise, and use a pad controller. They often only have 16 pads, but also have other knobs and sliders. I’d look into the Akai MPD series or the korg padkontrol (as a note, skrillex uses this type of controller in hs set up.) These have nice, big, whackable, rubber pads, and are often nice to use. If you dont need velocity messages or rubber pads, Ean Golden’s Midi Fighter is an interesting choice, using 16 high-quality arcade buttons.
On the other hand, you could combine a launchpad/other pad controller/whatever with an Analog Mixer. (BTW, Skrillex uses a pad controller with an analog mixer)
Now, with this, you dont use Abelton’s crossfader, you output two seperate signals from the computer, and use the mixer. If the mixer you choose doesnt have one built in, you’ll need a 4 channel soundcard.
For a mixer with soundcard, check out the DJTech X10, reviewed here (http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2011/07/dj-tech-x10-digital-mixer-review/)
Another mixer that has caught my eye is the Pioneer DJM-250 (http://www.pioneerdjusa.com/gear.aspx?product=DJM-250&cp=3), which doesnt have a soundcard, but gives you one-knob control over Highpass and lowpass filters per channel, which is pretty rare.
Anyways, I hope this helps some, or at least makes sense.
Good luck on your search!October 26, 2011 at 4:07 am #9050Travis24
Member@ locton staratos
Great advice, i really think this is going to help! I have came up with two options, I love the livid controllers but I dont have the money to drop on them, and I wanna play it safe to make sure I really enjoy this hobby! So the Two options I have decided on are 1) the launchpad and the m-audio x-session. or 2) the launchpad and the novation nocturn! which setup would you think, would work best? Also would these sets ups be functional with Torq, and ableton? I also wondering if i would need to purchase a sound card as well?On another note I am very excited you showed me the mini fighter! That controller is just plain awesome!!! I plan on buying one of those for sure down the road! If i was to buy it would i need to buy anything else with that? such as another control or mixer?
Thanks a lot! cant wait to hear back from you!
October 26, 2011 at 1:48 pm #9067lockon stratos
MemberHey man, just as a disclaimer, I dont own all this stuff, but i’ve been reading reviews and watching videos for a fair amount of time.
The X-session is a straight two channel dj mixer lookalike (review http://www.musicradar.com/gear/all/computers-software/peripherals/input-devices/midi-controllers/controllers/x-session-pro-21684/review) So if you want a mixer style controller, this might be good. However, for non-conventional DJing (aka using a launchpad :)) it might not be the best route. Do you plan on scratching?
If you dont, I would go with the Nocturn. The 4 knobs + 4 buttons per channel give good control over effects, which you are going to want. (review http://www.musicradar.com/gear/all/computers-software/peripherals/input-devices/midi-controllers/controllers/nocturn-143370/review) Another major point for the novation is the automap software, which apparently is very useful, but idk if it’ll work for you.
With regards to effects, if you are using abelton, I might suggest picking up Native instrument’s “Traktor’s 12” (http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/powered-by-guitar-rig/traktors-12/?content=1242) which is some of traktors most famous effects as VST plugins. If you want to “cue” (listen to stuff before the audience hears it) then you need a 4 channel audio card. Otherwise you might make do with just your laptop soundcard. (I’d still recomend upgrading when you get the chance.)
Yeah, the Midi Fighter is pretty neat, and Ean Golden really uses it to it’s fullest.BTW, do you have a soundcloud or something?
October 27, 2011 at 3:14 am #9092Travis24
MemberI basically plan on focusing on making mashup with some dubstep like sounds thrown into it, like arkitekt ( http://soundcloud.com/tracks/search?q%5Bfulltext%5D=arkitekt+touch+the+world+&q%5Btype%5D=&q%5Bduration%5D= )
And no i dont really plan on scratching that much at all. would i be able to make music like that with what i plan on buying ?
and not i also dont have soundcloud!October 28, 2011 at 1:34 am #9127Travis24
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that is kind of a bad example of what i wanna produce, another one is arkitekt – uncontrollable feeling, which is also on soundcloud. i would love to produce songs like this and add some of my own effects, beats and some dubstep!October 28, 2011 at 1:07 pm #9130lockon stratos
MemberOk, so the launchpad is probably a must for you. If you want to do FX and stuff, I’d recomend getting the “Traktor’s 12” Fx bundle. Otherwise, if you want, I can give you a list of my favorite freeware VST plugins.
One thing you will want is tactile control: knobs, faders, jogwheels, anything you can manipulate in real time.
So in addition to the controllers I already mentioned, here are some more to check out:
The Behringer BCF 2000 (fader) and BCR 2000 (rotary) are have been around forever, and are great deals for the price.
BCF 2000 (note the motorized faders): http://www.zzounds.com/item–BEHBCF2000
BCR 2000: http://www.zzounds.com/item–BEHBCR2000
With the right mapping, the AKAI LPD8 could be very powerful, for example it you set each pad to a certain effect, then you hit the pad to select the effect, then turn the knob to change that effects parameters. Do you know how robust the mapping system is in abelton?November 1, 2011 at 7:22 am #9240Travis24
MemberIm down to here your favorite freeware, for sure!! Also what about the Zero SL Mk II http://www.novationmusic.com/products/midi_controllers/zero_sl_mk_ii/ would that do all that the two Behringer controllers would do? I also do not know how to map the system yet. i just have the demo for right now.
November 1, 2011 at 3:14 pm #9252lockon stratos
MemberOh yeah, the Zero SL is kind of a much better bersion of the nocturn. If you can, i might just go for it, given the variety of controls (faders, crossfader, knobs, pads, buttons). The strength of the behringers is the sheer amount of knobs for the BCR and the motorized faders (they can move themselves), but a smarter controller like the SL could be better.
How about a new thread for VST plugins?November 2, 2011 at 3:22 am #9281Travis24
Memberwell im not following your thread!!!
November 2, 2011 at 10:16 am #9286lockon stratos
MemberUh, not sure what you mean by that. If you couldent find it, it’s right here: http://www.digitaldjtips.com/forum/threads/plugins.1438/
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