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  • #3749
    Emma Partnow
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    Hello Mark 🙂
    I won’t Debate on what you said; but it is Certainly an Interesting Topic :);
    A Lot of the Earlier Part of this Year (on Recommendation); I was just throwing a Limiter on the Master Channel of All my Tracks so they wouldn’t Clip; but since getting some New Headphones I realised almost Instantly how much Degradation there was to the Actual Sound Quality with a Limiter on there;
    So now; I am Mixing at -0.6db and my Tracks are not Clipping; and the Sound Quality is Tons Better 🙂

    #3750
    Haroon
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    Hektik mArK dA 5hufEleR, post: 3736 wrote:
    Now if you’re a genious like me you have probably already figured out the solution, and its a simple one.

    Instead of bitchin” about how music is ‘losing dynamics’ and how ‘music is getting ruined,’ just raise this ‘digital maximum’ to like, 5dBs or something. That is the only smart solution.

    -Dj.Mark the Shuffler

    I’m not an expert on this but I thought anything over 0db in digital gets clipped so raising to 5db does nothing. In analogue chain you can go over 0db to over saturate the signal and give warmth at expense of distortion. Besides raising the limit is like building a new lane on a congested motorway only for more traffic to fill it up, with audio people will just go up to 5db, so you’re back where you started.

    I think the easier way to deal with it is to turn on the autogain in traktor or the soundcheck in itunes 😉

    #3781
    Phil Morse
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    Hektik mArK dA 5hufEleR, post: 3736 wrote: So lately I’ve been hearing a lot of talk about this ‘problem’ in the music industry called the ‘loudness war.’

    If you’re smart like me you probably already know this is all some sort of liberal media jargon made up to support Apple, but I’ll explain it for you anyway.

    As you can see in the above pictorial, one song has more grey areas than another song, this gray stuff is loudness.

    Basically, through a process called ‘limiting’ music is made louder (that doesn’t even make sense?), by removing something called dynamics. What happens is the ‘RMS’ of the song is raised while still keeping within the 0dB digital maximum.

    Now if you’re a genious like me you have probably already figured out the solution, and its a simple one.

    Instead of bitchin” about how music is ‘losing dynamics’ and how ‘music is getting ruined,’ just raise this ‘digital maximum’ to like, 5dBs or something. That is the only smart solution.

    -Dj.Mark the Shuffler

    Why? there has to be a maximum, and people will abuse the headroom provided whatever it is. We posted on this: http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2011/03/6-ways-to-avoid-losing-in-the-loudness-war/

    #3791
    Emma Partnow
    Member

    That is a Fabulous Video you have within the Article Phil :);
    But it looks So Traumatic that once the Volume has been Turned Right Up (in the 2006 Version); that the Original Peaks are Lost :(;
    This is another Subject maybe; but is there No Way of getting that Original Crispness back ?

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