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July 20, 2011 at 4:08 am #4227
Arthol Gibson
ParticipantThere’s definitely no room for a timeout recoup if you’re mid-set, lol.
This used to happen to me quite a bit when I played in a local bar because the ‘party’ changed just about every hour.
What I started to do was, pre-gig, I’d go through a group of new additions to my library and write down a few ‘rescue tracks’ on a pad. I’d then look over past stuff for gems that I may have overlooked and do the same.
Before that practice, though, I’d simply swallow a bit of gusto and ask a reveler who seemed to be enjoying themselves if they were looking to hear something in particular – then I’d ask one who I could tell wasnt really vibing with the groove.The simple move to ask for requests, in lieu of waiting on them, changed alot for the momentum of the party more often than not – and it branches a connection of sorts with you and the crowd with them, in turn, respecting you for caring about what they like.
*don’t really have any feedback from a composer’s perspective
July 20, 2011 at 1:32 pm #4250Ivyquake
MemberReally Great Topic Emma,
I try not to hit that wall when I’m Djing but sometimes I do. In that case I have a playlist call ” Brain Don’t fail me Now” I retool it every week. I always go to it when I hit that wall. When I’m working at home and I hit the wall I always ask myself ” what would my favorite Dj/producer_________(insert name) do”. You have to dig deep to be successful at anything, we all get lazy sometimes but it all depends on how bad you want to be good at it…(That’s what she said!!!)July 20, 2011 at 5:09 pm #1001135Carlos
ParticipantI agree with Ivyquake. I’ve created a couple of 10 minute playlists I can use to re-inspire myself. when I truly just LOSE it or or completely fall apart. They have yet to fail me, especially during marathon sets…
However, I do make it an intention to refine my playlist everyday….
July 20, 2011 at 5:57 pm #4270D-Jam
ParticipantIf I’m playing live, I’ll do the best I can with what I have. Generally if I’m not feeling it or not feeling a good vibe, I’ll pull out a floorfiller or old school cut and surprise everyone. In Slovakia I ended up playing French Kiss by Lil Louis. I laugh about that because I think the crowd didn’t know what to expect, especially when the moaning started…and the DJs were all “DAAAAAAMN!” because they’re all younger and envied I had classics like that.
If I’m making a mix at home and I can’t seem to feel good about it, or I’m stressed on other things and can’t focus, I’ll put it away for the night. You can’t force it. Usually the next day it all comes together. Sleep is an amazing thing.
July 20, 2011 at 11:15 pm #4282Emma Partnow
MemberFirst of all I would like to say WOW !
What Incredibly Interesting and Motivating Replies/Suggestions/Working Practices 😎 :cool:;
The Most Accepted and Used Here being the ‘Preparation For Unexpected Challenges 🙂Ampero, post: 4220 wrote: There’s definitely no room for a timeout recoup if you’re mid-set, lol.
This used to happen to me quite a bit when I played in a local bar because the ‘party’ changed just about every hour.
What I started to do was, pre-gig, I’d go through a group of new additions to my library and write down a few ‘rescue tracks’ on a pad. I’d then look over past stuff for gems that I may have overlooked and do the same.
Before that practice, though, I’d simply swallow a bit of gusto and ask a reveler who seemed to be enjoying themselves if they were looking to hear something in particular – then I’d ask one who I could tell wasnt really vibing with the groove.The simple move to ask for requests, in lieu of waiting on them, changed alot for the momentum of the party more often than not – and it branches a connection of sorts with you and the crowd with them, in turn, respecting you for caring about what they like.
*don’t really have any feedback from a composer’s perspective
This is Great Ampero 🙂
There is Such A Divide Regarding Requests; but Here You Are ‘Asking For A Request’ from a Member Of The Audience who will Not Only Feel ‘Magic’ that you have ‘Involved Them’; but will ‘Spread Your Message’ :);
When you Prepare your ‘Get Out Tracks’ Beforehand; do you ‘Know’ these Tracks ‘Well’; or just ‘Feel’ they will Work; and Beatmatch them ‘At The Gig’ (if Required) ?Ivyquake, post: 4243 wrote: Really Great Topic Emma,
I try not to hit that wall when I’m Djing but sometimes I do. In that case I have a playlist call ” Brain Don’t fail me Now” I retool it every week. I always go to it when I hit that wall. When I’m working at home and I hit the wall I always ask myself ” what would my favorite Dj/producer_________(insert name) do”. You have to dig deep to be successful at anything, we all get lazy sometimes but it all depends on how bad you want to be good at it…(That’s what she said!!!)Hello Ivyquake :);
I haven’t heard ‘That’s What she Said’ since I was last on my XBOX 😀 😀
That is a Cool Scenario you have also for ‘When & If’ Disaster Strikes; to think of what your Favourite DJ/Producer would do in that Situation is Highly Motivating and Confidence Boosting; and Yes; You Are Correct; it is No Good getting Lazy if we want to Succeed Big Time 🙂bigmixxx, post: 4261 wrote: I agree with Ivyquake. I’ve created a couple of 10 minute playlists I can use to re-inspire myself. when I truly just LOSE it or or completely fall apart. They have yet to fail me, especially during marathon sets…
However, I do make it an intention to refine my playlist everyday….
This is Great Bigmixxx :);
The 10 Minute Playlists sound Ideal for any Unexpected Loss Of Direction; this is something I Haven’t Thought Of; but an Excellent Idea; as when I sit in front of My Screen; Breaking Sets Down To 10 Minute Excercises sounds Managable even in the Worse Block 😎D-Jam, post: 4263 wrote: If I’m playing live, I’ll do the best I can with what I have. Generally if I’m not feeling it or not feeling a good vibe, I’ll pull out a floorfiller or old school cut and surprise everyone. In Slovakia I ended up playing French Kiss by Lil Louis. I laugh about that because I think the crowd didn’t know what to expect, especially when the moaning started…and the DJs were all “DAAAAAAMN!” because they’re all younger and envied I had classics like that.
If I’m making a mix at home and I can’t seem to feel good about it, or I’m stressed on other things and can’t focus, I’ll put it away for the night. You can’t force it. Usually the next day it all comes together. Sleep is an amazing thing.
And Here We Are D-Jam my Friend with Our ’90’s Brains (Yours and Mine) 😎
I have the Spanish Version of ‘French Kiss’ (where there is a Male Vocalist for about 6 minutes); but it is So Scratched it is Virtually Unplayable – I Wish I could find a Way of Cleaning it up with the tools I Own;
But anyway; Yes :); a Vast Knowledge (though mine is Crap after 1999 :D) can be a Life Saver :);
And Yes; a Common mistake for me is to Try To Force Things; so for the last 2 nights I have just been Listening To Music; and then ‘The Urge’ will Hit Me when I least Expect It 🙂July 21, 2011 at 7:45 am #4302Arthol Gibson
ParticipantEmma Partnow, post: 4275 wrote: This is Great Ampero 🙂
There is Such A Divide Regarding Requests; but Here You Are ‘Asking For A Request’ from a Member Of The Audience who will Not Only Feel ‘Magic’ that you have ‘Involved Them’; but will ‘Spread Your Message’ :);
When you Prepare your ‘Get Out Tracks’ Beforehand; do you ‘Know’ these Tracks ‘Well’; or just ‘Feel’ they will Work; and Beatmatch them ‘At The Gig’ (if Required) ?It’s a bit of both most of the time.. a good bit of them would be tracks that I rightly abused months (or even years) before and get a decent nostalgia vibe from.
Others would be ones that I may have had in “ADD Rotation” or simply heard enough on the radio. Only a few of them would be really ‘stranger danger’ tracks that I probably only heard the one or two times pre-gig and slotted them for testing ground purposesJuly 21, 2011 at 7:40 pm #4316Emma Partnow
Member‘Testing Ground Purposes’ is also a Marvelous Description :);
I Often do this; and if they Work that is Great; but if for some reason they just haven’t ‘Got It’; but I Love Them; then they are Stored in my Personal Collection for my Own Listening Pleasure (as we Are Allowed this ‘Delicacy’ :))July 22, 2011 at 12:28 pm #4383Haroon
ParticipantTo help me with track selection I use the star rating tag in itunes/traktor, not for rating how well I like a track, I like them all or I would n’t have them, but rather where the track would fit in my sets. I do this after buying and analysing keys. Here is how I mark them:
* = Chillout
** = Warm Up
*** = Transition
**** = Peak
***** = Classic/Dance floor bombUsing that along with genre and key usually helps to narrow down the selection easy enough. If I get in bother playing a particular style, I can easily find a classic to pull me out.
July 22, 2011 at 12:54 pm #4387Emma Partnow
MemberHaroon K, post: 4376 wrote: To help me with track selection I use the star rating tag in itunes/traktor, not for rating how well I like a track, I like them all or I would n’t have them, but rather where the track would fit in my sets. I do this after buying and analysing keys. Here is how I mark them:
* = Chillout
** = Warm Up
*** = Transition
**** = Peak
***** = Classic/Dance floor bombUsing that along with genre and key usually helps to narrow down the selection easy enough. If I get in bother playing a particular style, I can easily find a classic to pull me out.
That is Excellent Haroon 😎
I always used to get Stuck on the Star Ratings because when I put a * it was like ‘Do I Want To Play This’; and then a ** was ‘This Seems Mediocre to me’; so I think I have to go back and Re-Evaluate my System; as the way you Use Yours is Great; and will Help Me Organise How I Begin a Set and Move Towards the Classics 🙂July 22, 2011 at 2:42 pm #1001157Phil Morse
Keymaster+1 for the “energy level” star rating.
July 23, 2011 at 2:52 am #4428Arthol Gibson
ParticipantEmma Partnow, post: 4309 wrote: ..if for some reason they just haven’t ‘Got It’; but I Love Them; then they are Stored in my Personal Collection for my Own Listening Pleasure (as we Are Allowed this ‘Delicacy’ :))..
🙂 yeah, definite fringe benefit there
July 23, 2011 at 2:55 am #4429Arthol Gibson
ParticipantHaroon K, post: 4376 wrote: To help me with track selection I use the star rating tag in itunes/traktor, not for rating how well I like a track, I like them all or I would n’t have them, but rather where the track would fit in my sets.
I must agree that is a very brilliant way of looking at things, with set organization in mind.
Thanks for sharing, save for a few personal alterations, I might just use this system 🙂July 24, 2011 at 10:08 pm #1001187Ryan Leo
MemberWhen I don’t wanna play I don’t.
Get another little project on the go for when you run a bit tired of it. When your ready you’ll go back.
You grow the most after take a rest and expand on your recent experiences.
October 18, 2011 at 3:37 pm #8654Darren Graham
ParticipantHaroon K, post: 4376 wrote: To help me with track selection I use the star rating tag in itunes/traktor, not for rating how well I like a track, I like them all or I would n’t have them, but rather where the track would fit in my sets. I do this after buying and analysing keys. Here is how I mark them:
* = Chillout
** = Warm Up
*** = Transition
**** = Peak
***** = Classic/Dance floor bombUsing that along with genre and key usually helps to narrow down the selection easy enough. If I get in bother playing a particular style, I can easily find a classic to pull me out.
Thanks for this star rating system Haroon K, I am just about to rate my tracks in Itunes, I was unsure if I should organise by time of night or otherwise but I think your system suits me best! Has anyone else any variations they would recommend?
October 18, 2011 at 5:56 pm #8671softcore
MemberFrom a composer’s perspective:
1. Definitely walk away from project
If you are on a deadline (for a soundtrack or jingle for TV and whatnot) do stay in the project to finish it off but steer yourself away from “artistic” endeavours and things like “Hey is this me? Hey is this expressing me? Hey, is this art or a musically interesting piece of garbage?” and that stuff. Leave those questions for when you are composing YOUR music. If YOUR music is on a deadline (promised to deliver to the label guy or whatever) then you have done a terrible mistake which cannot be solved lol.2. Re-define yourself as a composer. Distinguish between the music you enjoy listening (or dont have a problem listening to) and the music you want to write. Example: sure I enjoy listening to some deep house and drinking my sunday morning coffee but I want to write banging techno music for mad clubbers after 3 o clock in a dark underground club. Huge distance between the two.
3. After step 2, check out your projects again – delete the ones that do not belong to the music you want to write EVEN IF you like listening to them.
4. Remind yourself that in the end, music is a collection of sounds that, unless the listener acknowledges as such, is noise. On that scope dont try too much to be super-original or have unheard-of sounds just for the sake of feeling “an artist” – composing a well structured, no-silly-surprises music piece doesnt mean you are a sell-out or that you sound too like “others”. if you want to write house music, your music will sound like house, leave the rest to Aphex Twin or Stockhausen.
5. Sort your studio space, clean and sorted environment helps (generally speaking, Im sure somewhere on this planet there must be a musical genius who wont compose unless 30 cans of beer and garbage tosses are all over his studio)
6.Its a phase – anyone who writes music goes through it. Dont “press” yourself.
7. If the “spark” is there, continue your project – if not, again, don’t press yourself. The “delete” command is a liberating experience.
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