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June 24, 2013 at 1:58 pm #41554
J-Zed
ParticipantGotta know your tunes more than anything. Looking at your computer should be a secondary option.
June 24, 2013 at 3:42 pm #41557Daryl Northrop
Participantthe only other option would be hitting the ‘sync’ button every 2 bars or so. Not ideal, but if you are forced to use tractor and can’t view the waveforms in the format you need…..
June 24, 2013 at 4:40 pm #41559DJ Vintage
ModeratorYep, as I found out the hard way, Traktor is at the bottom of the totem pole for non-EDM music.
Serato apparatently is better, but comes with pretty tight (almost Apple-esque) hardware demands.
Might wanna take a look at MixVibes Cross (I am now). Gives you much more control over your tracks.
Another thing is prepping your tracks with Ableton Live. One of the things I do now is make a hard grid for the first 32 beats, the last 32 beats and 32 beats of any other GREAT mixing spot. When I bounce (save) the file back to wav, I end up with a track that even on CDJs will have a steady first and last 32 beats. On a 120 beats, that gives me close to 15 seconds of mix time. Plenty for my purposes.
Greetinx,
C.June 24, 2013 at 7:06 pm #41565D-Jam
ParticipantI’d say trust your ears and go manual, or find a means to beatmap the music.
When I see stuff about 70s DJing, it was short fades that melded in well. Those guys like Francis Grasso just had a knack to know when to drop the next tune.
June 25, 2013 at 7:08 am #41575Klaus Mogensen
ParticipantThank you for your replies
I have both Traktor, Serato and Virtual DJ on my gig laptops, so I guess I’ll continue to only use Traktor for sets where I know I’m going to play modern music only (like pre-defined sets), and use one of the other two for “anything can happen gigs” like corporate parties, birthdays and weddings with lots of requests (I actually ask for people to do request, when playing these kind of gigs)
I was just wondering how Traktor-only DJ’s coped with mixing untight music, when I couldn’t figure out how to do it
Best regards
Klaus MogensenJune 25, 2013 at 7:13 am #41577DJ Vintage
ModeratorKlaus Mogensen, post: 41732, member: 4499 wrote: Thank you for your replies
I have both Traktor, Serato and Virtual DJ on my gig laptops, so I guess I’ll continue to only use Traktor for sets where I know I’m going to play modern music only (like pre-defined sets), and use one of the other two for “anything can happen gigs” like corporate parties, birthdays and weddings with lots of requests (I actually ask for people to do request, when playing these kind of gigs)
I was just wondering how Traktor-only DJ’s coped with mixing untight music, when I couldn’t figure out how to do it
Best regards
Klaus MogensenWell obviously you can use the little sync mark which tells you if either of your tracks is running out and you can nudge it back or as D-Jam said use your ears and do it the old fashioned way.
Make no mistake though, both Serato and MixVibes may have more flexible beatgridding, which means they’ll get it right more often, but you will ALWAYS have to check the beatgrid it comes up with. So it’s not like using other software suddenly cures the drifting beat illness for all your tracks.
Greetinx,
C.June 25, 2013 at 3:27 pm #41602D-Jam
ParticipantJust bear in mind that from what I’ve seen and known of actual 1970s DJs, none of them did long blends like we do now. They did short 4-8 beat blends, or they were playing it all like a radio station with announcements. Look for interviews with Nicky Siano or even the late Francis Grasso. Watch Maestro and you’ll see it was different back then.
June 26, 2013 at 7:05 am #41616Terry_42
KeymasterI use Serato… I love stacked waveforms and I do not care what only by marketing terms “most” use.
If you check the actual scene in Europe for example (which is funny as NI is a german company) you see more Serato and VDJ DJs in the clubs. Only in the US it looks like Traktor is dominating (at least it was about 4 years ago, last time I was in the US I think).June 26, 2013 at 1:05 pm #41624DJ Vintage
ModeratorTerry_42, post: 41773, member: 1843 wrote: I use Serato… I love stacked waveforms and I do not care what only by marketing terms “most” use.
If you check the actual scene in Europe for example (which is funny as NI is a german company) you see more Serato and VDJ DJs in the clubs. Only in the US it looks like Traktor is dominating (at least it was about 4 years ago, last time I was in the US I think).Even more puzzling that DENON sells it’s MC6000 controller that is both Traktor and VDJ native with Traktor in Europe and with VDJ in the US. And obviously without Serato support on either continent 🙂
Greetinx,
C.June 26, 2013 at 1:47 pm #41629Terry_42
KeymasterYes it is kind of weird.
But it may be simple things like hype on internet forums and as I read the german forums regularly I see a lot less hate against VDJ and some quite famous germans use it.
Also Reloop is present in all the big stores and their flagship controllers (TM4 and TM2) are Serato Controllers. While the Jockey Series is very good and Traktor, they seem to create less buzz than the TMs…
Then there are a lot of german hip hop DJs who either still use Serato Scratch or moved to controllers and now use Serato. As while hip hop is on the decline in the US the german hip hop scene looks more alive…And last but not least: There is not that much controllerism hype in germany. While a lot of DJs moved or move to controllers here, they use them more in a traditional DJ way.
Actually the same is for the US, but due to controllerism hype I see a lot of DJs there with a huge controllerism setup for live performance and then they hit a button every 2min to switch songs in Ableton… real controllerists seem to be quite rare.June 26, 2013 at 2:09 pm #41637DJ Vintage
ModeratorThere are famous German people?
June 28, 2013 at 6:50 am #41671Terry_42
KeymasterIndeed.
We all love DJ Freshfluke 😉June 28, 2013 at 7:08 am #41673DJ Vintage
ModeratorJeez .. the things you learn here 🙂
June 28, 2013 at 7:11 am #41675Terry_42
KeymasterHowever she uses Traktor actually 😛
June 28, 2013 at 7:13 am #41677DJ Vintage
ModeratorHAHA! I KNEW IT !@
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