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  • #2211071
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Yeah, I’d be disappointed too if my second-ever gig wasn’t rocking the world or at least the venue I was in … are you serious!?!?!?!

    I dare venture a guess. If the DJ you so admire had played the tracks he had without all the acapellas and other stuff he did, he probably would have gotten (close to) the same audience response. After all music selection trumps everything. If you drop an acapella over the wrong track, it’s not gonna make it the right track.

    So, you can learn how to do all the fancy and tech stuff, but the most important skill is to know what must come next. And the only place to learn that, is -indeed- by playing out.

    So rather than feeling bad, accept that you are elsewhere in the learning curve than this guy and that this guy was once were you are now. Last I checked, nobody was born a DJ 😀 .

    Now, get practicing, get playing out and have fun doing it. You’ll be the envy of other starting DJs before you know it.

    #2211191
    Quicknight
    Participant

    Maybe you’re right, but I’m having a problem with the “learning” part. I just don’t seem to make progress. All my mixes sound really generic and dull. And I’m sitting here, in front of my laptop, with absolutely no clue on what to do next 🙁

    #2211281
    bob6397
    Participant

    Generic and dull is fine – as long as they are right. If you can get a mix right, then start thinking about what you can add to it (add a filter sweep? Add an acapella here or there).. experiment, believe in yourself and you’ll get there…

    bob6397

    #2212321
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    General rule: get over it and practice instead of feeling sorry for yourself.

    #2213061
    Guy Hagen
    Participant

    Dude, all the practice in the world won’t help to get rid of jealousy. People who are overly jealous if they aren’t as good as someone else are the same type of people who become overly cocky dickbags as soon as they DO become better than someone else. So jealousy isn’t what you need to deal with- it’s yourself. The more experiences you have and the more you succeed and fail, the more perspective you’ll gain, and you’ll (hopefully) just grow out of it. It takes way more energy to be jealous of someone’s success than to be happy for them.

    #2213481
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Refer to first part of the sentence: Get over it.

    Which involves thinking about yourself.
    Of course many people think that DJing is the fast track to fame, as it seems more simple from a distance than for example playing an instrument. Same as with singers, many people think singing is easy, far from it.
    Then they experience: Darn this is hard and I get nowhere.
    Some people that are successful are dicks and some don’t, also true.
    Actually most so called Superstars I had to deal with are very nice in private, media sometimes distort this too.
    You can only ask yourself, like my reality check:
    – Am I as good at producing music as let’s say van Buuren -> No
    – Am I as good at scratching as our very own Steve Canueto -> Hell no

    Do I get by and have nice gigs -> Yeah
    Do I get overly much money for them -> No

    Could I do more and get more -> Hell yeah
    Do I want to -> Hell no

    Thanks thats it…

    Do a reality check and get over it.
    If other people are dicks, get over it, you are better than them if you just shrug it off.

    #2214041
    Tjeerd Buijs
    Participant

    Dj’s now days are more a modern collector of mashup’s / bootleg’s of special edit’s see the Tracklist from Afrojack at event The Flying Dutchman!!!

    00:04 Afrojack feat. Eva Simons – Bangduck vs. Take Over Control vs. Pacha On Acid (Afrojack Intro Edit) 
    01:49 Afrojack feat. Stephen Wrabel – Ten Feet Tall (David Guetta Remix) 
    03:34 TJR & VINAI – Bounce Generation
    04:35 Nick Van De Wall vs. Riva Starr & Fatboy Slim vs. Afrojack & Spree Wilson – The Spark vs Mindf*ck vs. Eat Sleep Rave Repeat ( Afrojack Remix )
    05:26 Hardwell & Afrojack – ID
    07:50 Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike – Wakanda
    08:24 Calvin Harris feat. John Newman – Blame w/ ID – ID
    10:14 Ace Hood feat. Future & Rick Ross – Bugatti w/ Skrillex & Kill The Noise feat. Fatman Scoop & Michael Angelakos – Recess (Valentino Khan Remix) 
    11:30 Wiwek & Gregor Salto – On Your Mark w/ Major Lazer feat. Vybz Kartel – Pon De Floor (Afrojack Version)  w/ Knife Party – LRAD
    14:51 Bassjackers & Afrojack vs. Bruno Mars – What We Live For vs. Locked Out Of Heaven (Afrojack Mashup) 
    17:49 Nick Van De Wall – Daft Ragga w/ Syndicate Of L.A.W. – Right On Time w/ Justice vs. Simian – We Are Your Friends
    20:18 David Guetta & Showtek & Vassy vs. Afrojack & Martin Garrix – BAD vs. Turn Up The Speakers (Afrojack Tomorrowland Brasil Mashup) 
    23:58 Skrillex & Diplo & Bunji Garlin vs. Silvio Ecomo & Chuckie & Afrojack vs. Jewelz & Sparks – Jungle Bae vs. Moombah vs. Parade 98 (Afrojack UMF 2015 Mashup) 
    26:27 Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike & Afrojack & NERVO vs. Martin Garrix feat. Hardwell & W&W – Way We See Tremor (Afrojack Tomorrowland Edit) 
    28:37 Martin Garrix & Firebeatz vs. Swedish House Mafia & Knife Party vs. Zedd & Lucky Date vs. Deorro & J-Trick & Hardwell vs. Bastille & Audien – Helicopter vs. Antidote vs. Fall Into The Sky vs. Rambo vs. Pompeii (Martin Garrix Mashup) 
    32:00 Alvaro & D Wayne – ID w/ Rhythm Controll – My House
    34:47 David Guetta & GlowInTheDark – Clap Your Hands
    37:45 Disclosure – Bang That w/ Martin Garrix – Animals w/ Bang La Decks vs. Martin Garrix vs. Botnek – Utopia vs. Animals (Afrojack Vs. Avicii Bootleg)  w/ Bassjackers & Thomas Newson – Wave Your Hands 
    42:28 Afrojack & Shermanology feat. Showtek & Ookay – Can’t Stop Me vs. Bouncer vs. Jack That Body (Afrojack Tomorrowland Brasil Mashup) 
    44:45 Afrojack vs. Steve Aoki vs. Eva Shaw feat. Miss Palmer – Rock The House (Alternative Version) vs. No Beef vs. Moxie (Afrojack Re-Edit) 
    47:13 Afrojack & 30 Seconds To Mars vs. Dubvision feat. Eva Simons – Do Or Die vs. Turn It Around vs. Take Over Control (Afrojack Mashup) 
    55:06 DJ Paul Elstak – Rainbow In The Sky

    And the party people go’s wild plus afrojack can be the showman!!!

    #2214871
    Alex Moschopoulos
    Participant

    A little food for thought…

    Just yesterday, I was at the venue where I’d played my second-ever DJ gig. I was there as a guest, not as a DJ.

    It sounds like you’re still rough around the edges, a rookie. Plus you’re not the resident in that venue…was the other guy the resident? If so, then he’s going to have a leg up because it’s really his crowd.

    Everybody I’d failed to impress in my gig was dancing like crazy when he played.

    You don’t really know if you impressed or not. If you were the opening DJ, then your role is different than his. Your role is to get everyone comfy and into a groove so the next DJ can take it up to the level of insanity. If you didn’t send people out the door then you did a great job as an opener. Give yourself some credit. You might have merely set them up for the next guy to easily rile up into a frenzy.

    I swear if it wasn’t for the awesome food, I’d have run out of there and gone home crying 🙁
    I guess I’ll have to practice some more first.

    I think the only times I’ve ever felt “jealous” or what not was when I could tell the next guy or girl wasn’t that good, but they simply had the popularity. That they had the charisma to bring a crowd out and support them, even if they played horribly. I think the bad feelings inside me mostly were me feeling like that marketing was becoming more important than skill or what not.

    HOWEVER, in many cases where I was “outdone”, I didn’t get jealous, but more looked for inspiration. I’d study what that DJ was doing compared to me, and if I was willing to do that. So if it was a DJ playing cheesy pop that crowds can easily embrace, then I’d decide it’s better for me to not be popular and instead be happy in my music selections. However, if it was more on technique, creative programming of known and unknown tunes, and even promotion tactics…I’d get inspired and tried to up my own game.

    Jealousy will hinder you in anything in life. You only need to compete with yourself, and look to others to learn and be inspired from.

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