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  • #1001610
    Fxn-L
    Member

    I personally like it when people are 100% brutal. Because honestly, it’s more than likely what the crowd will be thinking in their heads.

    I would much prefer someone tell me straight, “Dude, that sucked ass,” rather than get wishy-washy feedback that’s sugarcoating it. Because if I know right from the get-go, “Oh, what I just did SUCKED,” then I’ll know to not do something similar in the future. Whereas if people just grin and bear it or beat around the bush, I could potentially go about my day/evening blissfully unaware of the depth of how shitty I just sounded.

    #7073
    DJ Max D.
    Member

    Depends on how it is criticized.. if the criticism is justified, spot on and reasonable, I am “actually” thankful and happy. That kind of stuff drives me to improve my technique and correct my mistakes. On the other hand if the criticism is just poo-slinging, I actually kill the person in my head and then go home and mix some angry electro music. But yeah, I mostly “actually” have positive reactions to criticism.

    #1001615
    U31
    Member

    Constructive critiscism? Hell yeah i’m all for that, otherwise how do we improve. And that applies to all walks of life, not just work.
    Remember that criticism can be positive or negative. If something is good, let me know and in what what way, if something can be improved, again the same applies. If something is dire, tell me- its far kinder then lies so as not to hutrt any feelings! But also tell me why you think its its dire
    But bitchin for bitchin’s sake? Without giving a valid reason?
    My opinion of such a person is instantly zero. I’ll not even register any word that’s issued from someone like that. That kind of person is nothing to me

    Fxn And DJ Max D both hit the nail squarely on the head

    #7136
    Emma Partnow
    Member

    This is the 4th Time I have been ‘Bashed’ on this Forum today and it is the 4th Post I have looked at;
    Things are Not Looking Good

    Regarding Critcisim; I didn’t even mention ‘Constructive Criticism’;
    Taking On Board what has been already been said here is Cool;
    However; Surely we have ‘Our Own’ Feelings about Our Material;
    Because if we are going to ‘Led’ by Others Thoughts/Judgements; how can we Ever Have Faith In Ourselves ?
    I Know when my Work is Crap and I Delete it;
    If I Upload something to the Web and a day later Recognise Sufficient Faults; I Take It Down;
    If I Allow something to go out on the Radio and only later pick a Mistake up; I Never Make That Mistake Again;
    When I have ‘Read’ that a Crowd is Not Feeling The Same ‘Vibe As I Am’; I Make A Point and Never Repeat It;

    I am not going to making any Friends here; but it seems Those Days Are Over anyway;

    @Fxn-L – When something tells you “Dude; that Sucked Ass”; your Response is to just Accept it and say; “Oh; what I just did SUCKED”;
    Well; Why Did It Suck; did the Person Tell You Why; do they have the Authority Of Technique and Skill to Say That ?
    What Did You Think Of It Yourself ?

    #7141
    Phil Morse
    Keymaster

    I can’t see any “bashing” going on in this post, Emma – am I missing something? (PS sometimes these things are best done by PM…)

    #1001632
    U31
    Member

    Ahh – i think you miss understand, Emma, i was using the word “Criticism” in its literal sense, which can mean good or bad.. positive critiscism is good, negative bad if you get what i mean!
    People often mistake the word criticism to mean only the bad side, a fault of the media i guess?
    Certainly no bashing or offence intended here..
    And to reinforce my earlier post, i’ll only accept bad criticism if it is Valid, not just someone saying ” That Sucks”

    #7170
    Michael M. Hughes
    Participant

    I hate criticism, even when I know I deserve it. I do accept it when it’s legitimate and try to use it constructively to improve myself and my skills. But I never like it.

    However, “This music sucks, can you play something good?” makes me want to pull out an Uzi.

    It’s important to remember that critics, especially those that approach a DJ during a set to complain, are often whiny nimrods and deserve nothing more than a forced smile and a “Hey, sure, let me see what I can do,” while in your head you are plotting their untimely demise. If the dance floor is happy, that’s all the feedback you need.

    #1001637
    Fxn-L
    Member

    @Fxn-L – When something tells you “Dude; that Sucked Ass”; your Response is to just Accept it and say; “Oh; what I just did SUCKED”;
    Well; Why Did It Suck; did the Person Tell You Why; do they have the Authority Of Technique and Skill to Say That ?
    What Did You Think Of It Yourself ?

    (trial run of the quote button, hopefully it works)

    I think I over-simplified my reply:

    More often then not if I get a response like that, I will definitely ask them to elaborate. I’m not one to just take things at face value. Like I’ve said a few times before, DJing is not my profession; I work in the medical field. At work, I can’t just accept things at face value…I need to completely understand things or else people might get hurt. Likewise with DJing, I can’t allow just a simple “You suck” to slip by…I would investigate why they said that.

    As far as having the technique and skill to judge like that, I wouldn’t necessarily say that technique and skill is a prerequisite to giving criticism– both the crowd and the DJ are consumer of music. Granted DJs are more active in their listening, I still think the layman has enough experience of listening to music to be able to give some kind of feedback. It’s up to the recipient of that feedback to do with it whatever they will.

    And as far as how I feel about feedback like that? Just like I said in the above post, as long as they’ve got an opinion then I don’t really see any problem in it. People are entitled to their opinions, yknow? So it’s up to me to receive it in whatever way I choose and develop a game plan (or stick to the current one) right there. I played out at an EDM event (if you can call it that) as the opening DJ a while back. I made poor song choices and emptied the room. Honestly, I think that’s worse than someone walking up to my face and telling me that I’m sucking. Because if there’s no one around then how can I delve into the feedback beyond “You suck”? There’s no one there to ask why! I would’ve much preferred someone to tell me “you’re playing too fast” or “we want X type of music” or whatever. Because of my nerves and inexperience, I really didn’t know what to do. So I just kept with what I was doing and everyone came back later after the next DJ started his set. So if I could CHOOSE what kind of feedback to receive, I would always prefer 100% brutal honesty versus a nonverbal response to peacing out and coming back whenever the next DJ is on.

    #7218

    Michael M. Hughes, post: 7165 wrote: However, “This music sucks, can you play something good?” makes me want to pull out an Uzi.

    Not so much an uzi, more a “stabby” feeling.

    When I get criticised for my musical work, usually one of the following happens:
    – They’re just a hater (i.e. a prick from school) or just don’t “get” the music (like people who can’t find the beat in dubstep). People who just have no idea are included in this category. Criticism ignored.
    – They have legitimate musical advice. I usually show my half-done tracks to BB and Haunter because they can always tell me if the track is missing something or if a particular sound is too loud or something like that. This is MUCH appreciated.
    – Well sh*t, I just stuffed that up, didn’t I? Thanks for reminding me, I’ll take note of whatever I just did and try to fix it/never do it again.

    #7229
    U31
    Member

    So if I could CHOOSE what kind of feedback to receive, I would always prefer 100% brutal honesty versus a nonverbal response to peacing out and coming back whenever the next DJ is on.

    The emptying of dancefloors will ALWAYS happen from time time, dont take it to heart, just keep going..

    I think i have mentioned this on here before, a few year back my mates ran a night in Liverpool – Hazydays
    It was always a certain flavour of choons and one night it was arranged for Graham Park (Yeah THE Graham Park ) to guest DJ, and he EMPTIED the downstairs room! If it can happen to superstar big names, it can sure happen to us!
    I’ll not elaborate why i think he emptied the room, last time a few on these boards were baying for my blood!

    #1001642
    Fxn-L
    Member

    If it can happen to superstar big names, it can sure happen to us!

    No way! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ I’ll keep that in mind!

    #7234
    U31
    Member

    It happens more then you realise especially at nights with more then one room like Hazydays at the Zanzibar did, it happened when we did a reunion/ birthday bash there last April, there was some amazing talent playing in both rooms and people just couldnt be in the both places at once..
    If you was a member here when i uploaded a mix from that night for Emma, that was a mate of mine (To be fair all but 2 of the DJ’s that night were friends of ours ) and in my opinion he played the set of the night… To an almost empty room of around 10 or 15 of us.
    Unfortunately at the same time another big name was playing downstairs at the time.. Scott or DJ Rhythm – and it aint often he comes out on the lash these days, never mind plays!
    I did pop me head down there at one point and Scott was absolutely smashing it with an Electro / Hacienda set so it was no wonder it was full in that room- i hit it at just the right time as he was playing a track from one of the lesser known Madchester / Hacienda era.. Northside – Shall we Take a trip ๐Ÿ˜€

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    #1001645
    DJ Stone Crazy
    Participant

    When it comes to DJing, I have yet heard criticism that was helpful. As others enjoy my mix, some nitwit takes it upon themselves to badmouth my music choice.

    #7331
    Michael M. Hughes
    Participant

    It’s many venues or situations it’s okay to intentionally thin the herd on the dance floor once in a while. If you want to severely shift gears or let your overheated people have a bit of a break, throw on something that you really want to play but aren’t sure how well it will be received. If it’s successful, great, now you know it’s a viable track. If a bunch of people slough off, no big dealโ€”let people get a drink, have a smoke, and reset. Bring them back with something you know will win.

    #7555
    Chris Jennings
    Participant

    I’m perfect so I ignore all criticism because those that offer it must be idiots!! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    WARNING: The above sentence is 100% pure sarcasm. Truthfully, I wish I could get more criticism.

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