Help with picking the right mid range controller for a newbie
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September 3, 2014 at 2:53 pm #2050799
Terry_42
KeymasterAll very different controllers, so I take a peak into them and then check into some others:
Denon MC 3000. It is quite dated, but it is a workhorse. However if you want Denon and its bullet proof technology then I would suggest getting the MC6000 MK II, it is by far better and does not cost that much more. Also it is better integrated with Serato which I would suggest. Besides that they are Denon, which equals unparalleled build quality and road worthyness, but have some less features and are a little more cramped in design.
Traktor Control S2 Mk II (I would vote against the older Mk I) is excellent if you want to go Traktor. However prepare to have a much steeper learning curve and possibly more frustration when going down this road.
Pioneer DDJ Ergo is a consumer controller and a toy. It has a nice lightshow and if your goal is only to impress friends and girls, but not serious work, then do not take this one. You say you want paid gigs, nobody will consider you very professional with this controller.
Pioneer DDJ-SR is a very good mid range controller. Build quality is not Deonon, but very good. It is the only controller in your list with velocity pads and they work quite nicely. The jogwheels are very good and the design of the controller is OK and well integrated with Serato DJ. If you will this is the pro version of the Pioneer controllers you listed.
Other controllers I would look at:
If you want Traktor I would also look at the S4, many buy twice because the S2 you will outgrow at a fast pace.If you want to go Serato then I would also look at the reloop Terminal Mix 8. It is a high end controller for a mid range price. All metal build quality, performance pads, excellent Serato integration and best jogwheels for scratching if that is your cup of tea.
If you want a jack of all trades with excellent build quality I would also give the Vestax VCI-400 a look, as in some reagions it can be purchased at a good discount currently and it is one of the most versatile controllers.
September 4, 2014 at 7:51 am #2051282Kuruvilla Eappen
ParticipantThank you very much for that detailed response Terry. That’s great advice.
I must admit that some of the choices I had made was price based. I checked the prices on Amazon and…
The Traktor Kontrol S4, and the Reloop Terminal Mix 8 is priced higher than my budget. (around USD 800).
The Pioneer DDJ SR and the Vestax VCI 400 is around the USD 550 mark.
The Traktor Kontrol S2 MK2 is priced around USD 499
The Denon MC 3000 is around the USD 350 mark.
If I buy any of these locally in Dubai, I’ll have to add another USD 100 to any of these, as the markups are higher, owing to the fact that there aren’t That many DJ gear stores here.
I was hoping not to spend more than USD 400 honestly, but was looking at one with great build quality and one that has all the bells and whistles that I would need for the beginning, and for a couple of years at least.
So my question is this – Would it matter that the Denon released over 3 years or so ago? Has there been a lot of advancement since then in subsequent controllers, that I shouldn’t consider the Denon?
Appreciate the assistance with this!
September 4, 2014 at 11:17 am #2051711Terry_42
KeymasterYes in my opinion there was loads of development since the MC3000. This is actually why Denon made the MC6000 Mk II and sadly, probably because Denon was bought by another company, they did not update the MC3000.
However if you are on a tight budget then might I suggest going for the DDJ-SR or the even lower priced reloop Beatmix 4 (with full Serato DJ bundle).
In case you slightly outgrow those controllers, you can easily add a reloop NEON later to have more features on your hands.September 4, 2014 at 12:16 pm #2051751Marco Solo
ParticipantI would advise against an S2 or S4, even though I’m a fan of Traktor. They have poor build quality and won’t last you very long if you play out. Almost all of it is plastic. I own a DDJ-SR and it has solid build quality, so does the Denon. Reloop is also excellent in terms of build quality. The Ergo is, like Terry said, a toy.
September 4, 2014 at 12:33 pm #2051781Kuruvilla Eappen
ParticipantThank you again Terry, and thank you Marco for the input. I was initially tilting towards the Denon MC 3000, but I take the point that it’s quite dated, and a lot has changed since then. After hearing Marco, the DDJ-SR is starting to look ideal.
Any recommendations on where to search if I had to order it online? Would it be safer to buy locally in Dubai paying more? It costs USD 540 on amazon, but costs USD 700 in a local store here!
September 5, 2014 at 9:03 am #2052061Terry_42
KeymasterUsually in terms of service quality it should be better to buy locally IF your local shop does offer good customer service. Which is not in all parts of the world. If not then ordering from Amazon is quite safe as their CS is quite OK.
September 20, 2014 at 2:47 am #2060412Isaiah Furrow
ParticipantI was in a similar situation recently. My short list ended up coming down to the DDJ-SR and the Reloop Terminal Mix 8. At that point the Denon MC6000 Mk2 wasn’t out yet. I opted for the Reloop for a number of reasons.
Definitely consider the price/value of having the full version of whatever software you choose, either via upgrade or included with the controller. The neon adds many of the features of the full Serato DJ to other controllers such as the Mixtrack Pro 2(my first controller), or the Denon MC2000. Both are often recommended for beginners on a budget. This route would leave you paying for the full Serato DJ upgrade but would let you spread the cost some over time, get your feet wet now at a reasonable cost, etc.
I’ve been thinking about picking up a Denon MC2000 for a while, and when my finances allow I will likely do just that, as it’s built a little more stoutly than my current backup/small gig setup(MTP2), it’s smaller too. The pads on the Mixtrack Pro 2 are not quite the same, in use, as those on a more high end controller. For instance, the top row are basically “buttons” to activate the effects, and even with the full Serato DJ there is no way to use all 8 cues. Just one example. With the NEON, that would give you access to all the newer functions of Serato.
Of the 4 you listed I would opt for the SR, keep us posted on how it goes. Best of luck to you….March 28, 2015 at 7:47 pm #2164731Kuruvilla Eappen
ParticipantHey All,
I just thought I should post a follow up to my post. I finally bought the DDJ SR on the 2nd of January from Pioneer in Dubai, and I couldn’t be happier! Having used it for the last couple of months, I have to say I love it! It is great build quality, feels solid, comes with Serato DJ, and is easy as hell to use. I had bought the How to Digital DJ Fast course from Phil in the summer of 2014. Once the DDJ SR came, I covered the course all over again, and I have to say, I’ve got the basics right easier than I thought I would! I am now trying to learn how to use the velocity pads and samples and effects. (“Trying” being the key word. Any help on that would be highly appreciated)!
Thank you all for the help. And anyone looking for a great beginner DJ controller, I would highly recommend the Pioneer DDJ SR.
Cheers
Rij
March 29, 2015 at 11:38 am #2164801DJ Vintage
ModeratorHi Rij, thanks for the update. As far as looking for tips on using pads and effects, try to formulate a precise question and make a new post. Easier that reviving this thread with a question going off in a different direction.
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