Help with monitors!
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March 19, 2014 at 9:59 pm #2012573
DJ Vintage
ModeratorWhat’s the primary use?
March 20, 2014 at 10:10 pm #2013173Oliver Seddon
ParticipantMainly bedroom use but also for small parties with like 20-30 people but simply in a normal sized room I have a medium size room so thats why i am going for the 6 ones so i dont drown it with bass
March 20, 2014 at 10:15 pm #2013176Terry_42
KeymasterActually you should never use monitors to play for other people. You most likely will kill them and monitors are meant to sound only good if you sit right in front of them. The speaker characteristics is made for near field deployment of sound.
As far as bedroom monitors go, I like the KRKs. They are true sounding and good bang for the buck.
If you want to party for 30 people get a cheap active PA speaker. Even one mono speaker will do better than 2 monitors.March 20, 2014 at 11:23 pm #2013207Oliver Seddon
ParticipantThanks! I have some speakers i can use for the parties but they’re pretty poor.
Thanks for the advice the KRK’s are the ones i am leaning towards too
March 21, 2014 at 4:38 am #2013296Isaiah Furrow
ParticipantI’m having a hard time choosing between the KRK 6 and the similar Pioneer 6″ monitor, I like the standby feature on the Pioneers, and like the non-Yellow drivers… Would they be similar enough to do the same job… these will be for practice in my mancave, a very small room, and for listening to music I’m working on in Maschine. I currently have a pair of ’70s Sansui 12″ cabinets and a pair of late ’90s Pioneer 12″ towers, driven off of a Sansui 6060. Having the monitors would give me 3 different sounds easily without leaving my music area, 4 if I cart one of my ZLX 12″ tops upstairs. Between those and an assortment of headphones I should be able to get a good range to preview.
I would also agree, that you could get a single PA speaker that would work well for a “house party”, and you could add a second later, it would suffice for practicing as well until you could get monitors. One of the 12″ speakers I’ve recently picked up, is pretty loud in my house and would do OK until you could add a second and maybe a sub later too… I used one for a recent benefit auction and it did well for playing music and was used by the auctioneer as well and worked for that nicely.
Back to monitors, are the KRKs and Pioneers close enough that I could choose either and be getting close to the same result? I’m pretty sure Phil had reviewed some from both series of speakers so maybe he could give us a little more insight into differences, or just how similar they are. Look forward to any more insight, and follow up from the OP would be great as well…March 21, 2014 at 8:36 am #2013355Terry_42
KeymasterWell looking at both I prefer the KRK. Not that the Pioneer are bad, but to me they color the sound a bit more and a monitor should be as flat as it gets, so you actually hear what you are doing. Also for the price point the KRKs build quality is outstanding.
March 21, 2014 at 9:46 am #2013371Oliver Seddon
ParticipantThanks to you all for the advice! I’ve found it very helpful. I have some poor skytek speakers that i can use for house parties at the minute and will certainly look for getting a better quality speaker.
And i think its a resounding yes to the KRK’s! I will he purchasing them!
One other bit of advice you could give me is about cables. I am ordering a package of the pioneer ddj-sx and the krk’s and in the pack they give me an rca – rca cable. By the sounds of it only one?! I would definately need two wouldnt i? And finally i would simply connect the wires through the master out? Or booth out? On the decks and connect to the speakers?
March 21, 2014 at 9:47 am #2013372DJ Vintage
ModeratorIf the purpose is practice, with the occassional party thrown in (and if you are any good at those parties, you’ll be asked to play more), then I’d go with (for example 10″) active PA speakers. When you practice you get the sound you will hear at the parties you play. There is, imho, no reason to have monitor speakers for practicing.
Unless you are planning on some serious production work, I wouldn’t be spending money on two sets of speakers. Actually when I practice I choose to not use my KRKs, but I set up my booth monitor (which is just an active PA speaker) and play with that. Like Terry said, better to get one speaker to practice with, use at parties and (when you start doing larger gigs) that you can use as booth monitor.
Greetinx.
March 21, 2014 at 10:33 am #2013380Isaiah Furrow
ParticipantI have one ZLX12P on a tripod in my living room as I write this, so I don’t always have to go upstairs to my mancave room… the stairs in my cabin are not at all a typical stairway… I think one decent powered PA speaker would be great for small situations like house parties and small get together events with friends, and with it you could practice, do a couple small parties, and then add a second to make a pair, then …. Good luck, and I like the KRK speakers, wondering if anyone (chuck/terry/etc.) can give input on just how exactly they color the sound vs the pioneers… I might be ok with that and am a Pioneer car and home audio fan since way back, also, the wife likes the “not-yellow” ones… and that counts for something… 🙂 I plan to get some good reference/studio phones too later on.
March 21, 2014 at 10:43 am #2013382DJ Vintage
ModeratorThe RCA-RCA cable will be stereo (and possible not long enough, standard size being 1.8m or less).
Since the SX has balanced master outputs on XLRs and your KRK’s have XLR inputs and I am guessing the Skytek’s (ahum) have XLR inputs as well, I’d invest in two decent and long enough XLR-XLR cables that you can then also use when doing a party with the Skytecs. When calculating the length you need, keep in mind that you need the length going from a controller on a table/booth to the floor, then the distance over the floor to where the speakers will be and then the length of the cable going up the speakerstand to the speakers.
Since you can easily plug one XLR cable onto the next (although best practice is less connectors is better), you could opt for getting 4 cables. Say 2x 3m to hook up controller to KRK’s (which by design need to be real close to you anyway) and then 2x 5 or 10m to extend your length to 8 or 13m each for hooking up Skyteks at a party.
Hope that helps.
Greetinx.
March 21, 2014 at 10:53 am #2013388Oliver Seddon
ParticipantGreetinx
Thanks for your help! Yeh the KRK’s have XLR, so i will purchase some of them however the skytek speakers have two rca inputs so i could get rca leads and use them to connect the SX to the speakers?
March 21, 2014 at 11:13 am #2013391DJ Vintage
ModeratorYou sure? The Skytec’s don’t have balanced inputs (they might be 6.3 Jacks, not XLR though)?
Because quite frankly I would never hook up my PA speakers using RCA cables. RCA is too sensitive to signal degradation and to picking up unwanted sounds (like nice little 50/60Hz buzz) when ran more than 2-3 meters. Also, you’d need mono RCA cables of a very decent quality (standard RCA cables are way to easy to damage). And with PA’s, 5m really is the shortest length you’ll get away with and only if you have the speakers next to your booth and don’t want your cables hanging in the air like a clothes line 😀 .
I know of Skytek speakers that have stereo RCA inputs, but this is usually part of some built-in “mixer” bit, that lets you hook up an iPod or some other stereo line source. Usually they will have XLR/Jack balanced mono input as well.
Greetinx.
March 21, 2014 at 11:17 am #2013393Oliver Seddon
ParticipantThanks for the help!
I have found some male to female 3 pin RCA cables that are reasonable length. Would these be correct for connecting to my KRK’s?
March 21, 2014 at 2:36 pm #2013421DJ Vintage
ModeratorNope, you need male-male RCA. Female-male are extension cables.
March 21, 2014 at 6:13 pm #2013497Oliver Seddon
ParticipantSorry i messed up there! I have found a male to female XLR cable… Is this the correct cable to connect my sx to my KRK’s?
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