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July 17, 2014 at 12:24 pm #2043813
Terry_42
KeymasterWhile I think the Eon series is excellent for singing reproduction and public speaking, I find them lacking at performance when used for DJing EDM music.
I would take a good look at the Mackie Thump Series. If you take the 15inch version I doubt you will even need a sub for 150 people.
If you are going for a “do it all” system you can also take a closer look at the offerings of HK audio and Yamaha and possibly the JBL PRX series.July 17, 2014 at 1:28 pm #2043825Ralphy Garcia
Participantso what about for house and bbq parities of less then 100 people would the Jbl eons hold up?
also whats your take on a pair of Electro-Voice ZLX-1 speakers
ora pair of the Behringer EUROLIVE B215D/ a pair Behringer EUROLIVE B212D with a B1200D-PRO sub? thanksJuly 17, 2014 at 8:23 pm #2043871Terry_42
KeymasterThe Behringers are no good. I did not test the ZLX in depth.
I think I gave you good options above.July 18, 2014 at 12:05 am #2043895Ralphy Garcia
ParticipantThank you so much on recommending the Mackie Thumps, at first I was very iffy to purchase them because of all the mixed reviews online, but then I saw the Mackie Thump15 and the trump12 they are 1000 watts and are supposed to be improved, so I think I will be getting those and buying the warranty for them just incase. Thanks a lot for the great advice.
July 18, 2014 at 6:29 am #2043932DJ Vintage
ModeratorYep, saw the new generation at the Frankfurt show and from what I could tell, they sounded really nice with lots of boom for a full-range speaker. I am guessing the “you either love m or hate m” thing will be less of an issue.
Most importantly is still “trust your ears”, so try to listen to a few of the speakers you think you might like, preferably in an a/b comparison.
Hope that helps.
Greetinx.
July 18, 2014 at 7:01 am #2043940Ralphy Garcia
Participantyeah my next step is to go to a guitar center in my area and try them out, it’s gonna be the 12s or the 15s but what it looks like it’s going to be the 15s since each speaker is 50 dollars more then the smaller ones.
July 18, 2014 at 12:45 pm #2044014DJ Vintage
Moderator15s will usually give you a little deeper and solid bass (it’s all physics) than 12s, allowing you to go without a sub.
Some 12s are better than others though. I recently did a charity gig and used my 2 Mackie HD1221s in the courtyard of a medieval castle to play music during a warm-up for 220 people. I couldn’t go full steam (would have been way too loud for the purpose) but I noticed once again that these speakers pack a serious bit of low end, considering they are 12″.
Good luck.
July 20, 2014 at 12:15 am #2044229Cusp Cusp
ParticipantI’d like to suggest renting speakers from your local Pro A/V shop. Renting is a lot less expensive (as options go), but you can try out different kinds until you find a set that you really like… you only have them for a short period of time, so you’ll be able to try out different brands, sizes, and combinations. Did I mention this is the best bang-for-your-buck? Also, rent them early with a guarantee that you’ll have them for your party, Pro stores like knowing they’ll have “for sure business” and sometimes the sales agent will “like you” and allow you to get a bump-up in quality, and when you buy your speakers, they might also give you a discount for renting a few times.
For your first purchased set of speakers, I recommend getting something used but in good condition (no one cares what the speakers look like and you’ll get a better deal if they are physically scratched or dinged). You will notice a marked improvement if you pick up a sub-woofer, so try to get a “package deal” when you buy everything.
I don’t know what your budget is so I won’t suggest any specific speakers, but you should also try and assess whether or not you want to buy them, or rent them.
Setting up audio, video and lighting for events is my “day job” so I can definitely give you more input as I know your needs, but try renting first.
July 20, 2014 at 9:11 am #2044279DJ Vintage
ModeratorYep, as you can read in many of the other posts on the the forum on purchasing speakers you will see that we usually suggest renting til you can buy quality. As one of our readers told us his father had tought him, “buy right only once”, meaning that you should only by quality gear and it will stay with you a long time in the long run saving you money by not buying lower grade kit and then upgrading three or four times to get to the level you really feel you should be.
The way I read OPs original question is that he wasn’t looking for PA gear to play paid gigs, but more for house parties and other friendly events. While I am an avid advocate of using top quality gear, in this case I understand there is no or very limited budget for gear rental. So that was my reason to leave out the rental suggestion, based on the intended purpose of the new purchase.
Still +1 for your tip cusp, it’s totally in line with what we usually tell people on here. Also the tip of used, although there it gets tricky if you don’t know what you are looking at/for in used gear imho. I have seen (active) speakers that sounded fine the first 10 minutes but after some serious warming up started humming like a diesel generator ;-). Guy that bought them had listened to them for 5 minutes just to check they weren’t shot and bought them. Repairs ended up costing him about the same as he paid for the speakers. So, unless you are very sure about your ability to pick out the rotten apple (which no doubt you will be able to do seeing what your daytime job is), there is an element of risk involved.
As far as people not caring what your speakers look like, I have a slight tendency to disagree. If your gear looks really scruffy, especially at more high end events like weddings, it does draw comments. Having said that. If you buy a set of (wood enclosure) second-hand speakers, it’s fairly easy to take them apart, give them a quick wet-sanding and bring them to a paint shop for a fresh paint job.
Greetinx.
July 20, 2014 at 10:13 am #2044282Ralphy Garcia
ParticipantI would like to thank all who contributed to this forum, I will defiantly be renting some subs when needed and I have also been looking at used, but i’d rather get something with warranty incase my lack of experience puts me in place where I would loose my whole investment. I also have a question in terms of controllers and software, I have a mix track pro one with sera to into, I was thinking of selling it and buying a ddj sb because of the looks and extra performance features, however, I was thinking maybe i should upgrade to the full sera to instead and then in the future get the sb. Would that be a good call? thanks
July 20, 2014 at 12:18 pm #2044296DJ Vintage
ModeratorThe upgrade to full Serato is about 125 USD. If you can afford it, I’d suggest getting the Reloop Beatmix 4. It’s more expensive than the SB (also fuller featured) and, for a “limited” time comes with free FULL Serato. It’s truely an awesome deal. The price difference between the two controllers is 150 USD, but with the full Serato figured in, it’s only a 25 USD more. And you get a very nice 4-channel controller.
We all understand about budgets and such, but this is one to consider, especially if you want to get full Serato.
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