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  • #16287
    shr3dder
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    Ok misunderstanding then it seems, Podcasts and Demo mixes are very different things.
    But generally everyone on this board isn’t at the level of the bigger name DJs who do weekly podcasts (at least to receive the mountains of free tune they do) and unless you know some important people or talented producers we’re all left scrounging the same pool, as unique as we might think we are.

    You can get a “spark” without newer tunes, just working on your mixing techniques. I get more a shiver from an unexpected classic.

    #16289
    2SHAE!
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    shr3dder, post: 16369, member: 1473 wrote:

    You can get a “spark” without newer tunes, just working on your mixing techniques. I get more a shiver from an unexpected classic.

    Def a misunderstanding, and I wasnt trying to be hard on the original poster, or yourself. I was trying to give constructive criticism (which was asked) on the original topic of the “spark”. And I love getting those unexpected classics you havent heard for a while in a mix. Like an old friend you havent seen in a while. But do you remember when you heard that tune for the first time ‘X’ amount of years ago. Chances are you had a good day lol.

    ps… I live in a place where EDM is not respected at all. I do understand artists such as Ingrosso, Hardwell, or Alesso, are mainstream in the world of EDM. Also, Artists like the entire SHM, deadmau5, and most recently Avicii, have come out of the EDM world and have gone completely mainstream. But the thing is: 95% of people around where I live are simply behind music culture, as well as the exploding EDM scene within the last 3 years. Its very difficult to get away with playing even the most popular prog/electro songs of the year. (for example I tried dropping Alesso’s track ‘Pressure’ the other night. I had to fade out mid way because I was losing the dance floor very quickly)….FML

    #16357
    gbadegesin
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    EoghanRussell,

    First and foremost, i am not an “EDM Head” so you might take most of what i have to say with a pinch of salt. Albeit, most of it applies generic to the world of Djaying in general.
    I listened to your mix and honestly i could not find anything wrong with it. Transtitions were fine, excellent song selection and nice track selection. I always tell people that “DJs are their own worst critics”. There is a thread here (maybe Phil can dig it up for you) where it asks all the DJays how they feel about their mixes after they have made it. And guess what? Most people felt their mixes were not good enough when there was actually nothing wrong with it.

    What i tend to do when i create mixes like that is that i forget about the mix and then listen to it weeks later. If i get the same ‘not good’ feeling then i accept that it is not good enough. Also , send the mix to your friends and ask then for feedback, infact, pester them to give you a feedback. If their feedback tallys with what you have thought then it’s probably right.
    Another good thing is to post your mixes online and ask for feedback. You will get listeners unknown listeners from all over who will give you a truthful feedback ( rather than a friend who does not want to hurt your feelings)
    One more thing i do is to put on my mixes when a friend is in my car or come to visit. I do not tell them i made the mix. If they ask about the mix then i know i have created something good.

    Lastly, whatever you do in your DJ carrer, make sure you create your own style. You can have DJs you admire but your own style should never be a copy but a reinvention. What i am saying in essence is that no matter what advice we give you here, you will have to embark on the journey on your own and discover somethings your own way

    My 2 cents

    #16363

    2SHAE!, post: 16309, member: 1459 wrote: Apart of your DJing skills leaves the equipment here. The ability to find those new tracks before the mainstream, that you know will blow up, that people will be listening to 10 years down the road is a great feeling. So try to find them first and include them in your mix. Personally, unless I dedicate myself to making a classic songs mix, I only mix new songs from the current month. This way I can learn all of the best new tracks from the month and see how they work together.

    good point

    #16364

    shr3dder, post: 16357, member: 1473 wrote: It was this comment I really objected too.

    3 months old.. the ability to pull out older (3 months is not old) tunes can really define you as a DJ.

    I like the idea of playing new songs and working with them so you can mix them well when they are released but I definitely agree that being able to select older songs can define you, and your style.

    #16367

    gbadegesin, post: 16439, member: 1507 wrote: EoghanRussell,

    First and foremost, i am not an “EDM Head” so you might take most of what i have to say with a pinch of salt. Albeit, most of it applies generic to the world of Djaying in general.
    I listened to your mix and honestly i could not find anything wrong with it. Transtitions were fine, excellent song selection and nice track selection. I always tell people that “DJs are their own worst critics”. There is a thread here (maybe Phil can dig it up for you) where it asks all the DJays how they feel about their mixes after they have made it. And guess what? Most people felt their mixes were not good enough when there was actually nothing wrong with it.

    What i tend to do when i create mixes like that is that i forget about the mix and then listen to it weeks later. If i get the same ‘not good’ feeling then i accept that it is not good enough. Also , send the mix to your friends and ask then for feedback, infact, pester them to give you a feedback. If their feedback tallys with what you have thought then it’s probably right.
    Another good thing is to post your mixes online and ask for feedback. You will get listeners unknown listeners from all over who will give you a truthful feedback ( rather than a friend who does not want to hurt your feelings)
    One more thing i do is to put on my mixes when a friend is in my car or come to visit. I do not tell them i made the mix. If they ask about the mix then i know i have created something good.

    Lastly, whatever you do in your DJ carrer, make sure you create your own style. You can have DJs you admire but your own style should never be a copy but a reinvention. What i am saying in essence is that no matter what advice we give you here, you will have to embark on the journey on your own and discover somethings your own way

    My 2 cents

    All fair points. I do feel though I need to work on my mixing. I am only mixing a short time. I am a classically trained musician so that does give me a leg up but I need some serious work I think. I was happy with the track selection for the most part and I was mixing it live. If I played that short set for a crowd I would have been happy enough, but I think (for me) I am missing the polished finish.

    #16382
    longmover
    Member

    you create impact by using the right records at the right time, most of the tracks in this set are pretty banging, so there will be not recognition of any impact if there is impact all the way through. Its a tough one but the only way you learn to use the right records is to widen the genre you buy and listen to. by doing that you will pick up the way they work. Also the transitions are too short (this may have been on purpose??) to create impact, ride the mix like a surfer does a wave get the energy from both tracks.

    you need to create peaks and troughs through out the mix and playing the records you have in this mix that isn’t going to happen. its one of things that comes with time. I bet in a year you wont be buying the same records as you are now. and you wont be mixing the same way.

    PS. dont get dragged into effects (my pet hate), if your playing good records at the correct time you don’t need effects.

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    longmover, post: 16464, member: 1361 wrote: you create impact by using the right records at the right time, most of the tracks in this set are pretty banging, so there will be not recognition of any impact if there is impact all the way through. Its a tough one but the only way you learn to use the right records is to widen the genre you buy and listen to. by doing that you will pick up the way they work. Also the transitions are too short (this may have been on purpose??) to create impact, ride the mix like a surfer does a wave get the energy from both tracks.

    you need to create peaks and troughs through out the mix and playing the records you have in this mix that isn’t going to happen. its one of things that comes with time. I bet in a year you wont be buying the same records as you are now. and you wont be mixing the same way.

    PS. dont get dragged into effects (my pet hate), if your playing good records at the correct time you don’t need effects.

    fair point, yeh it was on purpose. I need to learn to overcome one of my dislikes I suppose. I dont like the troughs haha. But without them as you said there is no impact.

    #1003251
    RaySwift
    Member

    shr3dder, post: 16334, member: 1473 wrote: Restricting yourself to new music is a terrible idea.

    Release date really shouldn’t matter that much. Good music is good music regardless of when it came out.

    Then again some people seem to love playing the latest top 10 from Beatport like 5 million other DJs

    I agree with this. A lot of DJs use these digital record pools and get all the same tracks at the same time and also play them at the same time. Thats why DJs who only depend on new music tend to get boring now matter how dope their skills are. If Im bar hopping and hear the same songs that I heard at the other lounge, ill be like WTF is this?

    Classic tracks are timeless. You need to mix it up with new tracks and classics. Especially when your 15 minutes into a set with all the new songs and then all of a sudden drop in the classic track that came out in 1997. The dance floor will go crazy especially during peak hours when they are fucked up.

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