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April 28, 2015 at 1:27 am #2185231
bob6397
ParticipantBy feedback do you mean a buzzing sound? Or do you mean actual feedback, where you have a mic that pics up the sound produced from a speaker that it is being amped through – creating a feedback loop – often resulting in a sudden high pitched screechy noise?
Did you get the same buzzing if you run the laptop without the power supply plugged into it?
bob6397
April 28, 2015 at 1:34 am #2185241Heath Wallace
ParticipantAn actual buzzing sound. Not mic feedback. My buddy pulled the power supply out and the buzzing stopped, for a while and then it came back.
April 28, 2015 at 11:31 am #2185681DJ Vintage
ModeratorTaking a wild stab at things here. You are going from RCA outputs on the WeGo (which are unbalanced) to the sub and then to the full ranges (usual hook-up)?
If I found (with trouble) the right speakers, the sub has satellite out (2x 500W) and line in/line out on RCA’s ONLY!
There are several things amiss with this (apart from the quality of the components).
1) There is NO way to run a balanced cable to the sub, as there only RCA’s, no XLR or balanced jack inputs. Running an RCA-RCA cable for anything over a certain length is not a good plan. Running an RCA-RCA cables straight into your PA is even a bad plan. You can fix it by buying two boxes that allow you to connect an RCA output and an RCA input with a balanced cable in between. But that is throwing good money after bad money imho.
2) The built-in crossover in your sub most likely ONLY works when hooking up the passive satellites. The RCA’s I am guessing are parallel connections. So going stereo to your sub (RCA) then single RCAs to left and right speaker will introduce more places for hum/buzz and signal loss. Also your full ranges will receive the full range signal, not the signal without the sub low (<200Hz). Meaning that an important feature of using a sub with crossover, to give you more power for the low-mids and mids, is lost. More than that, the balance towards the low end will be seriously skewed as you now have your 15″s firing the low stuff AND the sub. Not what you want to happen. You want the sub to take over that frequency field and free up the space so your full ranges can do their thing better, making for a better overall sound.Frankly, I don’t know what to tell you. The boxes I mentioned will set you back 50 bucks a piece and you’d need 4 of them (one for the WeGo, one for the sub and one each for the full ranges), which I think is ridiculous money and extra cables, power adapters and what not to make these speakers work.
You seem to have the wrong set (it would be better to have two passive tops with this sub to use as satellite) and the speakers don’t allow for a hook up that will most likely guarantee humming/buzzing free operation. While I don’t know this particular brand, I do have quite a bit of knowledge of this LEVEL of brands and it is safe to say that they are not putting too much money into quality components, let alone serious R&D. I have known stuff like this humming like a bird with only power hooked up and the amp on, no signal cables, nothing. And even if (semi)silent when not hooked up to signal, plugging in an unbalanced cable can introduce the problems you are describing.
A power conditioner, while a handy tool especially in areas with not so stable power supplies, has no effect on reducing humming/buzzing effects. The only thing you CAN try to get rid of the humming is having all your gear on the same group of outlets. You could try making this work by using only one wall outlet and then running extensions cords. This may or may not work depending on what else is on that group. You might end up blowing a fuse.
April 28, 2015 at 3:16 pm #2185821DJ Tucker
ParticipantI had this happen with my laptop and bought an expensive power conditioner (which makes my hi-fi system actually sound better, no joke) which didn’t fix the hum. The hum was heard in my subwoofer and was super annoying. In desperation I put a 3-prong adaptor on my laptop power supply and that made it stop forever (at least at that location) I never took it off and never tested it without the adaptor when playing out, I just left it on.
April 28, 2015 at 5:27 pm #2185831Heath Wallace
ParticipantTo DJ Vintage My wego does use RCA OUTLETS but the sub has an option of 1/4 TSR or XLR cables. I chose to use xlr cables with 2 Rca to xlr adaptors. The Satellites use 2 speakon to male xlr cables.
As for power everything goes through my power conditioner which is hooked to the wall socket.
I hope this gives you a clearer picture.April 28, 2015 at 6:22 pm #2185861DJ Vintage
ModeratorOk, then the pictures I saw of the back of the Extreme 18 subs were different speakers?
And using XLR with RCA adaptors is not gonna work. It makes it fit, but none of the benefits of balanced cable (just having XLR on one end does not make for a balanced cable).Also in your OP you state “active B2500D speakers”. Now you say you are going from the speakons on the sub (I am assuming) to XLR on the B2500Ds. If the B2500Ds are passive, that would work. Altough XLR is not the most common speaker input, it does happen that speakers have those. And SpeakOn is powered output (i.e. amplifier output), which fits with the sub specs saying it has a 2x500W satellite output.
If the B2500Ds are indeed active, powering them from the SpeakOn to the XLR inputs on the B2500Ds is NOT a good idea and actually it’s possible to roast the electronics in your B2500Ds.So, please give us the exact model of the speakers you have (a link would help tremendously) so we can tell you what to do.
To solve the RCA to XLR/Jack problem, this is a good solution:
http://artproaudio.com/artcessories/audio_solutions/product/cleanbox_pro/April 28, 2015 at 7:47 pm #2185951Heath Wallace
Participanthttp://www.123dj.com/packages/pa/b2500d-value-pack.html
The feed back I hear is from these speakers only especially the left side.
April 28, 2015 at 8:48 pm #2186041DJ Vintage
ModeratorAnd you are sending the SpeakOn output from your sub to the XLR inputs on these speakers?
April 28, 2015 at 10:21 pm #2186061Heath Wallace
ParticipantExactly
April 28, 2015 at 10:22 pm #2186071bob6397
ParticipantIs this the link for the sub..?
http://www.123dj.com/speakers/hifi/xtreme18.html
Can you tell us exactly how you are wiring everything up?
Do you go:
Controller –(RCA CABLE/XLR CABLE)–> Sub –(Speakon Cable/XLR Cable)–> Tops
Or
Controller –(RCA/XLR CABLE)–> Sub –(SPLITTER/XLR OUT/XLR CABLE)–> Tops?
Please explain.. I think I am even more confused than Vintage.. 🙂
bob6397
April 28, 2015 at 10:25 pm #2186081bob6397
ParticipantHa.. You beat me to it..
Don’t connect speakon ouputs (Amplified) into XLR’s (which are then amplified themselves – XLR’s carry mic/line level signal not amplified signal, resulting in the amp in the speaker being driven really, really hard and a complete loss in sound quality..
You could blow up the amp in the tops if you do this..
And is this what the back of the subs looks like?
April 28, 2015 at 10:27 pm #2186091Heath Wallace
ParticipantYes bob6397 that is my sub. As to wiring I use an xlr cable with 2 rca adaptors to connect to the wego then from the sub to satellites is speakon to xlr.
April 28, 2015 at 10:29 pm #2186111Heath Wallace
ParticipantHow should I connect?
April 28, 2015 at 10:31 pm #2186121bob6397
ParticipantIs the image right?
If it is, you should go out of the XLR outputs on the sub to the XLR inputs on the tops – as your tops already have amps in then you don’t need to use the amp in the sub for them.
bob6397
April 28, 2015 at 11:17 pm #2186131Heath Wallace
ParticipantYes that pic is correct, but you can only use speakon or bannana’s for the satellites the other outlets is for other subs. It’s all in this speakers manual.
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