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  • #2048705
    Randall Colelli
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    After doing a few initial gigs similar in music style to your line-up, I have to say just go with the flow and don’t worry about breaking it down into blocks. Keep your eyes on the floor and see who’s dancing–appeal to them a bit to keep them there and raise the energy level to lock them there until they drop! This will attract more people onto the floor with them. The dancers will circulate and you will probably get requests; I recommend checking the internet service at the venue and see if you can’t get a service where you can download songs you don’t have on-the-fly to please the people who do requests. Get their first name every time, and when you see the crowd kind of lax, get your mic and elevate the crowd by announcing who it’s for then throw in a cheesy “Get on the floor with WHOEVER!” right before you let it drop. Let them do the work for ya by grabbing hands and pulling people out with them! Doesn’t always work but it will make you grin really big when it does 🙂

    Being it’s your first gig, don’t fret at all if the floor remains empty here and there. If you are playing music that people aren’t giving you awkward stares for playing, that’s good, even if they aren’t all dancing. It isn’t a club, and people might be a bit shy about dancing depending on the family. Since it is kind of an intimate setting being a family birthday party, you will get less gruff about playing a request than they will give someone for requesting that song.

    Don’t worry about super-smooth mixing with tracks you don’t know very well. Obviously, no hard cuts at awkward spots, don’t bring down the energy with transitions from an awesome beat to a long vocal intro of the next song, etc. It’s not as easy to mix top 40/classic pop/rock/hip hop as house is, but as long as the music doesn’t drop dead you’ll be okay. I did that a couple times at my first two gigs–don’t let ’em see you fret, just keep going! Also, be sure to listen to at least two minutes of the tracks so you know they maintain clarity, don’t have those bad rip popping noises, etc. They hurt ears through a PA!

    To reiterate, above all else, take it easy and have fun, and just go with the flow! Good luck 🙂

    #2048706
    Randall Colelli
    Participant

    PS–see if you can’t move this thread into the right category 😉 This is the hardware area

    #2048711
    Lamid45G
    Participant

    Since it is a bday party dont forget to practice your MC-ing skills also ^_^

    #2048724
    Ian Owen
    Participant

    Randizzleforshizzle, thanks mate for your great reply. I guess the advice I will take from your comments is just follow the floor. Would you recommend doing a few 2/3 pre mixed tracks to give me a bit of breathing space throughout the night? Thanks again dude.
    Djrizki, good point. I’ll dig the mic out this weekend and practice. Question, when I go to local clubs around my area why does all the djs sound the same? Is there a setting on the mic that’s standard? It’s deffinatley not the same dj either haha.
    Dj vintage thanks for re-posting this in the right forum, I’ll ensure I do next time.

    Thanks everyone.

    #2048726
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    It’s moved!

    One thing seems not quite right in your train of thought. You are treating the night as one “wave”, going from intro to warm-up to steaming and finally the cooldown. The truth is that (in no small way influenced by your crowd) there should be several “waves”. This gives people a chance for a breather, a smoke or a drink before going for another round.

    The intro block should serve to get people in the vibe, toe-tapping & head shaking. Then you build it up til you have a floor going which you get into a good state, then you release them from your “grip”, keeping the vibe, but just tempering the energy. Sort of an eat, rave, repeat kind of thing 🙂

    Also at mobile gigs that are held for a reason (birthday, anniversary, whatever) there will often be planned or in-promptu things popping up that can totally throw of your planned set. If you were already planning on multiple waves, when the “interruption” is over you can just start the next wave. If you have only one wave planned, this will be a lot harder.

    Hope that makes some sense 😀

    #2048743
    Ian Owen
    Participant

    Dj vintage,

    Thank you for the great advice. I’ve practiced some pop stuff tonight and I really don’t like playing that stuff haha. For starters I find main stream stuff Abit cheesy and secondly that shit is hard to mix man. I’ve tried picking songs that are within +\-5bpm but it’s difficult when mixing chart music unless it’s remixed. (Any tips would be great).
    What I did find was playing track 1 all the way through to the final kick and starting track 2 first kick on track 1 final kick. (Really boring if I’m honest).
    I wish I could feel different towards this genre of chart music. I will soldier on regardless to get the experience of playing to a crowd of people I don’t know. Is this normal?

    CamDup Soul

    #2048746
    Randall Colelli
    Participant

    Don’t worry. Chart toppers are pretty homogenized these days, but depending on the age of the group at large, you can play stuff that has made it into classic status (80s, 90s, early 2000s) and just highlight it here and there with newer stuff.

    Another tip–look for remixes of those songs to keep it familiar for them and easier to mix for you. Many remixes keep a dance BPM of 128-132.

    #2048749
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Well, you mentioned the magix word, “REMIX”. And you can make your own remixes (even on the fly). Find a bit that sounds like it would make a good outro, and set a loop there. Lots of pop stuff is remixed in one way ore another for just this reason, to make it club ready.

    Another thing is there are so many transition methods that only beatmatching is just as boring as using any of the others (not to you perhaps but to the audience, if I listen to a DJ doing only beatmatched mixes -however skillfully executed- it all becomes a bit of a blur without many “surprises”).

    What you describe is a good method, although be sure to count the outgoing track so you can start the 1st downbeat where it would have been in the outgoing track.

    Technically:
    1) cue up the incoming track on the 1st downbeat you want it to start
    2) open the channel fader on the incoming track
    3) count down on the outgoing track
    4) finger on the play button of the incoming track
    5) other finger(s) on the outgoing track channel fader
    6) when you reach 5…6…7…8…hit play here and slam the outgoing channel fader closed.

    Seamless mix into another track without beatmatching.

    Most of all. You are right that you need the experience with real crowd to develop that side of your skill set. Unless you are a true producer/DJ that attracts crowds that expect to hear YOUR stuff, in which case you can pretty much do what you like, you will always be faced with crowds that come to have a good time and your job as a DJ is to provide that. Obviousy by bringing in your own creativity and skills, but also by managing expectations and skillfully weaving in the things you really want to introduce your audience to. Not shove it down their throats.

    With the exception of some big name DJs (who are more like stage performers, musicians than actual DJs in the traditional sense of the word), the show is about the music, the vibe, the party, not about the DJ. Now I am a mobile DJ, so lot’s of different rules apply, I am expected to play what the crowd wants. So a little subservience to the party is a good thing. Still I will bring in stuff I think is fun and suitable that the crowd might not know (yet). And it’s always a little succes story when that works out.

    The good news about it is, that mobile DJs (and in particular wedding DJs) are the ones that get paid the big bucks. Also due to the diversity of audience (no wedding, birthday, anniversary is really the same), it’s a great place to rake in many frequent flyer miles of experience. It’s the best live school out there imho. Even if you then decide to go producer and only do your own thing, the lessons learned while catering to a “hostile” crowd (i.e. a crowd that won’t be up for your preferred genres, not that they’ll be growling at you 😀 ) will stay with you and serve you for the rest of your career.

    Just my 24 cents as usual 😛

    #2048754
    Ian Owen
    Participant

    Dj Vintage,

    Thank you for so much information on this subject. Your experience really is so valuable to me at this stage of my career.
    How do you break your crates down and how many is sufficient. Do you break your crates down into genres or something like build up/Main bangers and so on. I know this is probably down to personal preference but how do you do it. Obviously your a well established Dj with the know how. I’d rather ask for help and advice than keep scratching my head over the correct way of doing things. It just saves time and will give me time to concentrate on the other fundamentals if Djing.
    Thanks again Dude.

    #2048761
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Actually when you get to setting up playlists, crates, sets, etx., this is where the DJ-ing starts. It is a) highly personal and b) very dependent on what kind/style of DJ you are. My ultimate crate setup might be a terror to you and vice versa. I have friends that have playlists that would drive me crazy and my playlists probably drive them nuts.

    So this is one you have to find out yourself. The good things is that you can make and delete playlists easily and any track can be in as many playlists as you like.

    Obviously things like key, genre, bpm-range, energy level are good selectors when it comes to making playlists.

    More personally I am one of those guys that fell for the more is better trap and am stuck with a huge collection that is TOTALLY unpractical. Also I never liked using iTunes. But recently I have started rebuilding my core collection (planning max. 1500 to 2000 tracks) in iTunes. This means lots of new playlists and such too. And I am nowhere finished yet. So even if I thought it’d be helpful, there isn’t much to share with you yet.

    You asked somewhere about doing 2-3 premixed tracks to give you a breather. I would not do that. You can have 2-3-4 track mini-playlists with tracks whose transitions you know and have practiced. This will prevent you from the stress of what to play next every track (as I stated before), but you should still do the mixing manually. It’s imperative if you play out to have that skill ingrained in your soul. So, imho, pre-mixed tracks are a no-no in the booth.

    The only possible exception if you need a bathroom break like really bad! 😀

    #2048765
    deathy
    Participant

    I have been thinking about maybe just a couple of Marker automations for bathroom breaks for when I need to keep going for longer than I can hold it in.

    #2048769
    Ian Owen
    Participant

    Dj vintage,

    Thanks again for the tips. I pretty much sort my crates out in their groups as you described. I’ll take on board the pre-mixed tracks as a no go, I’m sure I’ve read or seem one of Phil’s videos explaining to have 2/3 songs Pre mixed prior. But as always with this profession i guess it’s down to personal preference as I’m finding out.
    With regards to my music amount I have a shed load however I am ashamed to admit a lot of it has come from friends hard drives etc. having said that I’m very particular about my genre Deep house/house tracks. I scrutinize some of these tracks on beat port for days before I purchase then and that’s why I know them quite intimately.
    I’m really looking forward to the experience of playing to a bunch of people I’ve never met just to see how they react and more importantly how I react :). Good advice again dude cheers.
    Deathy what do you mean by marker automations?

    #2048770
    deathy
    Participant

    In Traktor, you can set markers that will do automated (though very simplistic) transitions. I wouldn’t want to use it often, but the style I prefer (Ghetto Funk/Nu-funk) tends toward songs that aren’t long enough to take a bathroom break.

    I guess I could always create my own extended mix of a few of the really great tracks too.

    #2048771
    Ian Owen
    Participant

    Deathy, I’m with you now. I’m using Serato on a DDJ SX. I’m not sure if Serato has that capability. Ive owned my SX for a little over a week now And love it. Still ain’t read the manual yet though haha!!

    Cheers dude

    #2048772
    deathy
    Participant

    I do envy you the proper gear, my finances are super tight so I bought something cheap that’s barely more than a toy (though great for learning on).

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