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  • October 8, 2012 at 7:37 am #1013200
    Indian Cosmic
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    You guys are funny
    Ben

    October 8, 2012 at 7:41 am #1013201
    DJ Jaquay
    Member

    Why? It’s the truth. Untill we make it big and tour doing our own shows, it isn’t about us.

    October 8, 2012 at 7:43 am #1013202
    Indian Cosmic
    Member

    Im.glad im not one of thode djs i know how to beatmatch for.me thats the essence of the.dj then a good set of tracks to mix and the proper skills to control your gear but you big sync djs know better
    Ben

    October 8, 2012 at 7:50 am #1013203
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    It’s good you learn to beat match. For me it was always an mechanical thing to learn when I did vinyl DJ:ing long time ago where I was more interested to get the crowd excited by selecting interesting tracks and blending them together. Wish I had all the nice tools available long time ago.

    Suspect ten years from now it’s not even a big issue as a lot of bleeding edge DJ:ing is to use all kinds of audio units to extend the show (video, Maschine, dual-DJ:ing) so it even forces sync in to keep everything working in a complex environment.

    October 8, 2012 at 7:57 am #1013204
    DJ Jaquay
    Member

    For the record i dont use sinc. But i find it funny ones that do cant get away from digi hate on digi forums. Its like lets make everyone drive 5 speed vehicles. If u can’t then just dont drive even though you can do the same thing in an auto. But you wont be a ‘real’ driver because you cant drive a stick.

    October 8, 2012 at 8:02 am #1013205
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Yes I also find it intriguing. I suspect it has to do with someone spending a lot of time learning this and now when this is available as a feature feel that they need to elevate the manual sync as something magical that the audience requires. The audience really don’t care much, they want to be entertained.

    I’ve seen my share of ‘technical’ beginner DJs that come to a club thinking that showing their technical skills will make put the audience in awe. While it mostly clears the dance floors pretty quickly.

    PS: I don’t say manual sync learning is a waste of time. Let’s say your Traktor grid lines start to deviate after 20% into the track and you need to fix this rapidly…. Or you are have to use CDJs… A well-rounded DJ knows how to handle all those situations.

    October 8, 2012 at 8:03 am #1013206
    Indian Cosmic
    Member

    You dont use sync but you defend it like if you use it
    Driving a “fast” car doesnt mean you can drive a race car but sure you need some.basic concepts step by step yo drivr a race car

    You cant run if you havent learn to crawl or even walk
    Ben

    October 8, 2012 at 8:04 am #1013207
    Indian Cosmic
    Member

    Sorry for the mispeling words im.on.my smartphone.lol

    October 8, 2012 at 8:07 am #1013208
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I always purchase manual stick gear cars but I don’t think those who drive automatic cars are bad drivers…
    So I don’t see the point why including DJs using sync are ‘fake DJs’. Having a pre-defined mix played back is ‘fake’.

    October 8, 2012 at 8:09 am #1013209
    DJ Jaquay
    Member

    The only time i tried it out it was the worst trainwreck ever. It’s not a magical fix all button. Fks me up. But if someone else can use it and still put out a good set then more power to him.

    October 9, 2012 at 2:25 am #1013250
    Mike Check
    Member

    As many have said it’s about playing the right song & getting people to dance. I’d be hesitant to call them fake DJ’s because they don’t mix similar to how I wouldn’t call someone a fake guitarist because they aren’t highly technical or play guitar solos. I definitely respect learning to mix well but at the same time I think it’s a skill DJ’s put too much value on.

    October 9, 2012 at 6:49 am #1013258
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Just for the record: I use sync 😛
    I use all the tools handed to me, but I am prepared if that tools fail or the beatgrid is wrong etc.
    Just because I can, does not mean I have to and vice versa….. it is not about the tools, it is about the music.

    October 9, 2012 at 7:18 pm #1013285
    squarecell
    Participant

    Beatmatching means nothing if you’re only playing rubbish music and no one is dancing. Hard to call yourself a DJ then.
    If you’re dropping the right tracks at the right time, beatmatched or not, I’d say you’re doing a DJ’s job.

    If there’s one good thing the sync button has done it’s removed the articifial barrier that existed between the Pro DJ cult and those who aspired to become one.

    Just like learning how to use a camera in manual mode doesn’t mean you’re suddenly a top-notch photographer, nor does learning to manually beatmatch make you a “real DJ”. Yes, in both cases it helps to be able to have the hands on control instead of relying on the machine to do it for you, but at the end of the day a good photograph is a good photograph and a good DJ set is a good DJ set, regardless of the technical skill it required to make it.

    And for the record, yes I can beatmatch manually, but sometimes I choose to use the sync button to allow me to focus on other things.

    October 10, 2012 at 5:34 am #1013313
    Dub C East 49
    Participant

    basicallknow how to work a crowdy just learn from what he was doing…….i had to learn and i must say its nice to have some people skills and

    October 10, 2012 at 5:36 am #1013314
    Dub C East 49
    Participant

    just learn from him, that guy knew what to do…..working a crowd is somethin else, trust me ive seen djs like that myself, just gotta be observant

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