Ever purposely post a mix with a few minor mistakes?
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September 28, 2012 at 8:50 pm #1012828
Nicko D.
MemberI do my mixes live too but only recently started posting them on mixcloud. So my second one I was doing I made a mistake (I picked a track that had the same title but was lower kbps that I forgot to the eliminate from my iTunes library) and I panicked. So I stopped my recording and posted a little over an hour of my 3 hour set.
Of couse it figures that the rest of the darn set was fantastic. I had messages on my phone at the end saying “this was the best one yet!” and of course I didn’t capture any of it because I got scared.
So from now on lesson learned. The entire mix gets recorded and posted. Good bad or indifferent. I will just keep faith in humanity that the people are as awesome as the audience in this forum. 🙂
September 28, 2012 at 9:38 pm #1012831D-Jam
ParticipantB.B. Koning, post: 29088, member: 1638 wrote: I keep up with your posts, so I know you’ve been in the game for quite some time. It is very re-assuring to know that you’re of that mindset. Thanks for the encouragement/affirmation.
I will tell you…in most cases, DJs and hardcore enthusiasts will notice mistakes. It doesn’t excuse you from trying to achieve as close to perfection as you can, but also bear in mind most fans won’t notice mistakes.
I use sync nowadays, and I don’t deliberately insert mistakes, but I don’t try to make things “100% perfection” because it’s like performing a song on an instrument. Every time you play that song…it’ll sound a little different than the other times you played it.
I always think of the non-DJ/non-enthusiasts when I make mixes…because the DJs and die-hards are mainly going to listen to big names over you. It’s the average joes and janes who will listen and love those mixes made by locals.
softcore, post: 29098, member: 243 wrote: I agree with D-Jam! Few days ago a producer-DJ told me that he records his sets (the ones he uploads to places like Soundcloud etc. etc.) by layering the tracks in Ableton Live and doing automation edits to make the mix. Surely they will sound perfect in timing, but I was disgusted at the idea that no actual performance-DJing is involved in this process.
One or two erros in the mix, reminds the listener that what he listens to is an actual mix and not some result after hour of editing with a freaking automation draw pencil in your software.
I’ve tried honestly to use DAW stuff to make mixes…even played with MixMeister. I just can’t do it. I can’t just lay out tunes and call it a day. I need to play it like I’m at a club. Granted I can redo a bad blend with some audio slicing in a program like Sound Forge, but I never felt like I could make something “amazing” unless I’m playing it like I would in a club…sync or no sync.
Even when I am playing said set and recording, my mind imagines myself in that perfect club or event…so I keep the vibe attuned to that imaginary place. I’m sure Phil and some others would tell me I need to get back into doing gigs…but that’s a different debate.
September 29, 2012 at 1:35 am #1012836B.B. Koning
ParticipantD-Jam, post: 29263, member: 3 wrote: I will tell you…in most cases, DJs and hardcore enthusiasts will notice mistakes. It doesn’t excuse you from trying to achieve as close to perfection as you can, but also bear in mind most fans won’t notice mistakes.
I use sync nowadays, and I don’t deliberately insert mistakes, but I don’t try to make things “100% perfection” because it’s like performing a song on an instrument. Every time you play that song…it’ll sound a little different than the other times you played it.
I always think of the non-DJ/non-enthusiasts when I make mixes…because the DJs and die-hards are mainly going to listen to big names over you. It’s the average joes and janes who will listen and love those mixes made by locals.
I’ve tried honestly to use DAW stuff to make mixes…even played with MixMeister. I just can’t do it. I can’t just lay out tunes and call it a day. I need to play it like I’m at a club. Granted I can redo a bad blend with some audio slicing in a program like Sound Forge, but I never felt like I could make something “amazing” unless I’m playing it like I would in a club…sync or no sync.
Even when I am playing said set and recording, my mind imagines myself in that perfect club or event…so I keep the vibe attuned to that imaginary place. I’m sure Phil and some others would tell me I need to get back into doing gigs…but that’s a different debate.
D, that is sort of what my mindset was. I am concerned about DJs and enthusiasts noticing, which is one of the primary reasons I was hesitant. That being said, I really feel like the sum was greater than the lesser part.
I try for perfection, but I’m just not good enough not to make a mistake at this point, frankly. But the re-assuring thing is the feedback I’ve gotten on this forum. Nice to hear that everybody feels that live is the way to go, and mistakes are a part of life, from Digweed down to the bedroom enthusiast.
I did one mix where I used the sync through the entire thing, simply because I was working with drum patterns that just weren’t working well with my skill level.
Since then, I’ve made it a point to focus on exclusively manual beatmatching and using Traktor’s ahead/behind the curve feature to adjust the best that I can.
It ain’t easy, and mouse head can suck my pinky for saying you just need to count to four.
I’m really looking forward to getting my feet wet, and I hope that the end result and the passion will shine through enough to carry through the f-ups.
September 29, 2012 at 1:39 am #1012837B.B. Koning
ParticipantNicko D., post: 29260, member: 2782 wrote: I do my mixes live too but only recently started posting them on mixcloud. So my second one I was doing I made a mistake (I picked a track that had the same title but was lower kbps that I forgot to the eliminate from my iTunes library) and I panicked. So I stopped my recording and posted a little over an hour of my 3 hour set.
Of couse it figures that the rest of the darn set was fantastic. I had messages on my phone at the end saying “this was the best one yet!” and of course I didn’t capture any of it because I got scared.
So from now on lesson learned. The entire mix gets recorded and posted. Good bad or indifferent. I will just keep faith in humanity that the people are as awesome as the audience in this forum. 🙂
Well said, my friend. Well said. That was also another reason I wanted to post it. After the mistakes, I was like ‘oh sh***!’ If I’m 10 minutes or less into the thing, I’m okay with starting over. But getting further into it, and especially when the effects and tracks/drops seem to be working, it just feels like I won’t be able to re-capture the same vibe of being in the zone by starting over.
September 29, 2012 at 7:35 pm #1012862DeeJay SiBoogie
ParticipantRecording is no different to playing live, mistakes will happen. Recording allows you to listen back to those mistakes, analyse why you made them, what you did to get out of it, what you could have done better to get out of it in future and what you should do not to make the same mistake.
Remember all DJs make mistakesOctober 15, 2012 at 8:24 pm #1013677Phil Morse
KeymasterAdmission time: If I did that, I just used to label it “recorded live”, being ambiguous about where (In my room? A club? Who knows) 😀
October 15, 2012 at 10:44 pm #1013687Anonymous
InactiveLive mixes are more fun than sterile Ableton Live arranged ones… Unless someone has really fun with Ableton Live, of course.
PS: I don’t care about mistakes myself, more interested in how creative the mix really is. And sometimes you have to take chances to make the mix creative rather than boring-perfect.
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