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September 24, 2014 at 7:05 pm #2062601
DJ Vintage
ModeratorHaven’t seen such a chart, but I’d say drop a note to Yakov or Chad over at MiK. I am assuming they did the research before incorporating this feature in MiK and they are a nice bunch of people.
Be sure to let us know if and what they answered 🙂 .
September 24, 2014 at 11:15 pm #2062881deathy
ParticipantGood idea, I’ll do that.
September 25, 2014 at 10:16 am #2063291Lamid45G
ParticipantYou tried any Soulfull house or disco tech house genre, what energy level those peaked at ?
IMO, those two genres (or somewhere between them two, the sub genres and such, etc etc) mostly is what our local DJ’s opening spins with,September 25, 2014 at 10:27 am #2063311deathy
ParticipantVery useful, thanks! Even still semi-related to my main genre.
September 30, 2014 at 11:14 pm #2065832Seth Shannon
ParticipantPersonnaly I never take care of energy level from MiK. Not that the algorythm is not good, I wouldn’t doubt about that, but because I think YOU give the energy in your set.
The way you’re gonna play, the kind of crowd, club fully packed or quite empty, do you warm up, mainstage or finish, and especially the sound system. There’s SO MANY parameters that will make you memorable or will make you want just to hide behind the booth pretending you’re searching for something (you see what I mean)… So don’t focus too much on EL. That’s is just my point of view.
I tried used the EL by playing the EXACT same playlist on 2 nights in a row. The first night “wow you were amazing tonight” and the second night “are you tired ? did you change your sound or whatsoever ?”.
And you know what, it’s like when you listen to this huge (at least you “think” is huge) track when your at home dancing half naked in your kitchen (this last part is personnal, don’t tell anybody), and then you play the following night this track thinking you’re gonna rock the club and take a jesus pose when the break starts and realize that… nothing happen…
We all have experienced that right 😉
Cheers,
Seth Shannon
October 1, 2014 at 12:00 am #2065851deathy
ParticipantA good point, and I do find that a lot of my tracks that MiK identifies as high energy are not what I would consider high energy, so I am not going to use that as the end-all-be-all, but I also like to utilize every tool available to me to take measure and improve my results as best as I can.
October 1, 2014 at 10:12 am #2065971Lamid45G
ParticipantYeah you right deathy take it as just a mere tools, same thing with the harmonic mixing thingie, 2A good match is either 3A,1A, or 2B or jump ahead two notch,etc (according to harmonic mixing rules)
But when you start listening yourself, then you start thinkin eh this 2A tune sounds much better with other tune which is in 8A, well so be it lolOctober 1, 2014 at 10:43 am #2066021deathy
ParticipantExactly. Ultimately, what sounds good to me is the final judgement, but the tools help me to consider more variables.
October 1, 2014 at 9:25 pm #2066551DJ Vintage
ModeratorEnergy level is only an indication imho. If you use it to limit your choices I think it’s just that – limiting. If you use it to find new things to try, then it can be to your (creative) advantage.
Still, a tool is a tool. Use it where handy.
October 3, 2014 at 12:46 am #2067282Seth Shannon
ParticipantExactly,
Most of the time, I use harmonic mixing to create live mashups during my sets and put some energy for the crowd. But I realized that I got kind of “addicted” to build my set according to the MiK keys. Like origanising playlist by keys, from 1 to 12.
But this is a bad habit, because you often got kinda stuck. Like when you wanna play 2 amazing tracks, but one is 1B and the other is like 7A. So you forget your basics (when you played on vinyls for example) and you don’t mix those tracks because you’re getting afraid that the result will be not good, not harmonic, or drop the energy of your set, making the crowd getting bored because of the loss of energy.
That’s a very tricky thing, and now i try more and more not to take care about the MiK keys and be more creative, cause, even if think that this software has really been a revolution in DJing, it can also addict you and make you lose creativity.
That’s only my point of view 😉
Buy the way, there’s an excellent article about how to boost your harmonic mixing by playing with the key knob (on traktor), so you get more liberty. But even if this is a really great article, when you try it in club, don’t make the same mistake I did last night, like forgetting to reset to 0 you key knob haha 😉
Cheers,
Seth Shannon
October 9, 2014 at 10:52 am #2070251deathy
ParticipantOh, man, done THAT! I’ve done it a few times now, so I am a lot better about remembering to reset the key knob now.
I’m still developing my technique, and branching out and trying new things… harmonic mixing is a good place to start from, as I enjoy how my mixes sound, but I am working on expanding how I can work things together. Using the +/- 1-2 semitones to move a song elsewhere in the wheel has been a really good trick, though I admit there were a few times where I did the math backwards.
October 9, 2014 at 10:43 pm #2070712Seth Shannon
ParticipantYeah I also tried to map one of my DJ controller to “learn” how to manage the key tone, but this is a real pain in the ass… And when you start playing with the key button to match harmonically with your next track, you can get lost and lose your crowd. It’s a really amazing trick but to handle carefully….
Cheers from Beijing
Seth
October 10, 2014 at 9:53 am #2070981deathy
ParticipantYeah, it’s one I am using sparingly until I can do it without having to put special thought into it.
October 10, 2014 at 10:22 am #2071051DJ Vintage
ModeratorI have to say that Mixvibes Cross have implemented the key change option in a nice way.
October 10, 2014 at 12:03 pm #2071081deathy
ParticipantThat is one of the cases where I prefer VDJ’s handling of something over Traktor’s.
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