Does it piss you off when a "DJ"…
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March 7, 2012 at 6:47 pm #1003218
Papa Bear
MemberPhil Morse, post: 16416, member: 2 wrote: Fascinating thread…
Why so, in your opinion? 😉
March 15, 2012 at 9:17 am #16783Phil Morse
KeymasterIt’s a major and enduring issue with DJs, I’m enjoying hearing how people deal with it.
March 22, 2012 at 4:02 pm #1003333rippinnyx
Memberi know exactly what your talking about. all of the nightclubs where i live the djs use a computer program called nightlife. they pretty much just que the tracks up and the computer automatically cross-fades the end of one song with the intro of another.
April 4, 2012 at 4:48 pm #17949jalou1995
MemberI don’t know if you guys realized that you are turning over the pots and pans of this mid 40’s guy and will deprive him of earning a decent living if you become successful in your endeavors. hehehehehe
I’m just playing the devils advocate here 😀
I do sincerely hope for your success. SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST!!!!
April 4, 2012 at 6:47 pm #17955Yozakura
MemberI would agree with someone who previously posted(after all the reading I forgot…) that it’s actually about where you Dj.
If you are in a location with mainly commercial music 85%(wild guess somehow) wont give a c**p about how you mix the tracks, they just wanna hear the next song they know and go like ” WOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT TRAAACK! YEAH SHES A SEXY BITCH A SEXY BITCH” …
If you go to a location with for ex. Tech-House or Minimal Techno chances are VERY high that people wont come back again if the Dj is the “I got a fancy laptop with iTunes and Winamp on it” type because they often fade into a kind of trance (if it is due to drugs or the music itself it doesn’t matter) they will absolutely hate it when the beat goes dududum dududum cuz it’s not in sync at all, they are thrown out of the trance. And even if they don’t go into the trance and are very aware of their surroundings they actually care if the tracks blend in nicely since in that genera alotta tracks are unknown, meaning they have to be presented in a good way(ok if it is a Dustin Zahn – Stranger to Stability (Len Faki Remix at the right time people probly wont care cuz tracks like that are KICK-ASS…^^), and in order to do that you need to be a good Dj capable of having a certain progression in your set. I don’t know about the USA but in Germany the Deep-house scene is growing, and alota clubs try to have a “Deep-house night” sometime, but also a lot of em fail epicly because the Djs they hired wasn’t capable of getting the right twist into the sets, making ppl sway to the beat they present by the track, making them cry for the next drop. And again, if you suck you wont get it done at all not by any possible means…So there is a factor of how good you Dj, and also if the music fits the location you have chosen
cheers
EDIT: for instance the track Dapayk & Padberg – Khes could be such a killer, but it coould also be wasted if not set up properly by some other tracks…
btw in the track they somehow mock how commercial music oftenly works^^April 5, 2012 at 2:55 am #179742SHAE!
Participant…as for the original thread. I ended up playing at that venue on the 22nd. The night went well and we filled the place (very rare in my town for a thursday night). at the end of the night I asked the bar manager how everything went, compared to other thursdays in the past (even though I already knew that this place was typically empty on thursdays). He wasn’t give me a clear answer and kept avoiding or switching topics. Later that night, I emailed the entertainment manager, (she never showed up) thanking her for the opportunity to play there, and telling her we got a good turn up. I also mentioned getting another gig with them in future. She emailed me back 2 days later saying something like “Thanks for playing for us, im glad the night went well. I heard from the bar manager that the place got a little rowdy, and there were a few instances of underage kids trying to get in. Although our venue was filled up, due to the reasons above we wont be able to book you in the near future.”……I found it ridiculous. I didnt think that crowd control could hold me liable in anyway, since I’m just the DJ. They told me to promote the night, so I did. We filled the place, (which never happens), and everyone had a good time. So I guess this place just sucks afterall? What do you think?
ps. After getting the email, I couldn’t hold myself back, and replied to her with quite a negative reply about how they run their business.
April 5, 2012 at 11:34 am #17997Yozakura
MemberWow, that’s unpredictable… You’d actually think they are happy and grateful that you have filled the place up since more guests mean more money!..-.-
I would’ve been pissed 2, but I’d try to keep it down and think to myself “ok… there actually are dumb bar owners…-.-“Did you get any reply from the management?
April 5, 2012 at 3:13 pm #18008Todd Oddity
Participant2SHAE!, post: 18069, member: 1459 wrote: I found it ridiculous. I didnt think that crowd control could hold me liable in anyway, since I’m just the DJ. They told me to promote the night, so I did. We filled the place, (which never happens), and everyone had a good time. So I guess this place just sucks afterall? What do you think?
ps. After getting the email, I couldn’t hold myself back, and replied to her with quite a negative reply about how they run their business.
Sadly, get used to it. I work in the mainstream / top 40 scene, and security issues constantly get blamed on the dj. When things are going well, it is great bartenders and management. If it suddenly gets rough, must be the music. Obviously music sets the tone, and can rile up a problem crowd – but the doormen are the ones who let that crowd into the venue in the first place…
Now, getting blamed for underagers trying to get in – that’s a new one to me. That’s entirely a security/door issue. Unless you were intentionally handing out flyers in a high school… lol
As for sending the nasty email – never do that. No matter how much they piss you off, stay professional and be the bigger person. I’ve learned that those outbursts can come back to haunt you later.April 5, 2012 at 8:48 pm #180372SHAE!
ParticipantAs for underage kids, Im 23, and have quite a variety of friends/acquaintances so it goes older and younger directions. However we did not invite anyone directly that was underage. As for the venue, There was no bouncer or door staff so id say its 100% their fault either way. As for the email replay I sent her. Allthough it was of negative response, It was strictly professional, yet harsh, explaining the way they run their entertainment is completely unacceptable. (if you have read all the posts from me in this thread you would understand how horribly managed it is). I realize even if this place wanted me back, it wouldn’t be worth it if I had to deal with all this stuff on a weekly basis. Time to move on to another venue. Anyone have any “pitch” advise? Im considering starting a new thread about it
April 5, 2012 at 9:04 pm #18039Todd Oddity
ParticipantWow. Okay, if a bar doesn’t realised on a college bar night they are going to require doormen (plural), then you are WAY better off without them. That is just asking to get into all kinds of trouble. I won’t work anywhere that doesn’t have some form of security in place.
April 16, 2012 at 12:55 am #18590DJ Stone Crazy
ParticipantHere’s my two cents: The owner of my residency runs into DJs and friends of DJs just like you all the time. All promising to rock the house. And what does she tell them? “I already have a DJ.” The only time I don’t DJ is during a Latin event, a Latino DJ does that. I’m with D-Jam (as usual), many people in that spot may not have a problem with “No Talent”. In fact, he’s doing exactly what I started out with, iTunes. The reason I went Virtual DJ? I wanted to look legit. In my humble opinion, your first approach was the wrong approach. Think about it this way. You have a DJ everyone seems to be happy with. Then somebody comes along and says they have skills. So what is this person trying to say? Your DJ sucks and he or she thinks their better? That comes off as looking cocky and insulting to the owner’s business decisions. Your second approach was the right one. I did just that. I approached a bar that didn’t have a DJ.
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