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  • #1004975
    Hee Won Jung
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    Yeah Vinny you nailed it on the head. Oh theres no G at the end of Won 😛

    I get caught up in the Sheep syndrome when im just a punter too, specially when i get too drunk…by that point i really dont care what is being played as long as its got a really good beat with some sexy girls on the dance floor that i can groove with, then life is good. BUT when im there straight sober…i almost wish i didnt know how to DJ cuz i catch every little mistake and some DJs really bother me…like ones that just put a song on…stand around and drink a beer…its like dude…please for the love of god do something…like play with a knob or throw in an effect or SOMETHING…dont just stand there staring at me LOL.

    If you like that Lazy Rich song…check out this song…just came out a few days ago…its pretty freaking awesome.

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    #1004979
    VinnyBlanc
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    Hee Won, many appologies for the typo.

    #1004982
    Hee Won Jung
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    lol its all good bro.

    #1004998
    D-Jam
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    Some guys in Chicago would throw some wild/colorful electroclash/retro nights. Their main DJ (and promoter) was a guy named Pier Novikov. He never beatmatched or mixed, just slid things in at the right time…much like I’d see older disco DJs do. The crowd loved him.

    Goes to show how much song selection/programming matters. Look at how Larry Levan spun at the Paradise Garage, or old recordings of Pickering, Park, and De Salva at the Haciencda.

    #1005004
    Steelo
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    The worst thing about being a DJ is how conscious you are of bad mixing. I’ll be pout with my friends at the club and you’ll hear some atrocious mixing but none of the other punters notice. It eats away at me if its really bad.

    #1005006
    Papa Bear
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    In my opinion, good music and a good choice of it is a must, but crappy mixing can ruin it all.
    I HATE educative Djs (as a friend of mine recently described DJs who want to teach the crowd their taste of music at all costs but do not realize that nobody is dancing), and I’d rather have a top40-guy with a nice playline (say, the follow up of the songs generates athmosphere or just flows well) than a super duper fly controllerist who slices and cuts the tracks so hard you have no chance to get into a dancing flow kind of feeling.

    Finally: I try to mix as best as I can in the certain situation, but never to the disadvantage of the track.
    Means, the choice between sick mixing and ruining the recognition value or just the feeling of the song AND leaving the song in a rather pure shape, but keeping it intact so the crowd gets shivers will most certainly swing towards leaving the song be.

    When I am among the crowd, nice blends are fine. Nice mixing, remixing, whatsoever is nice to have, too.
    But if you’re messing up the tune and disrupting the flow, go to hell.

    Just my opinion.

    #1005007
    Steelo
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    Agreed!

    #1005009
    Hee Won Jung
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    Steelo, post: 20864, member: 1368 wrote: The worst thing about being a DJ is how conscious you are of bad mixing. I’ll be pout with my friends at the club and you’ll hear some atrocious mixing but none of the other punters notice. It eats away at me if its really bad.

    Yeah I know exactly what you are talking about. Bad mixing/Trainwrecking…and DJs who just stand there doing nothing really bug the crap outta my buddies and I. It’s almost like nails on a chalkboard how aggravating it is LOL

    #1005055
    Arthur Kokanov
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    Would you guys say then that song mixing / live remixing is mostly for the DJ’s Ego or say street rep? Because even my gf says that she hates when DJ’s switch out songs too fast. Although I think that to keep a good flow basic mixing is needed.

    #1005057
    Hee Won Jung
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    D.J.Manhattan, post: 20915, member: 1201 wrote: Would you guys say then that song mixing / live remixing is mostly for the DJ’s Ego or say street rep? Because even my gf says that she hates when DJ’s switch out songs too fast. Although I think that to keep a good flow basic mixing is needed.

    No i would totally disagree…When your Gf/ppl say switching out songs to fast…thats not blending…thats cutting going from one song to the next song…blending is being able to add certian elements from one song in to the current song playing…

    Blending is probably one of the harder elements of DJing because if you leave your EQ all at 12 and bring the new song in…chances are its going to sound like crap…its tweaking your mids lows and highs to just bring in a snappy high hat or a certian vocal riff…thats REAL blending, and that can create a whole new dimension to the existing song…small little tweaks like that can take a good set to being a great set…well IMO at least LOL.

    Anyone else think differently?

    #1005059
    ADHDJ
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    D-Jam, post: 20858, member: 3 wrote: Some guys in Chicago would throw some wild/colorful electroclash/retro nights. Their main DJ (and promoter) was a guy named Pier Novikov. He never beatmatched or mixed, just slid things in at the right time…much like I’d see older disco DJs do. The crowd loved him.

    Goes to show how much song selection/programming matters. Look at how Larry Levan spun at the Paradise Garage, or old recordings of Pickering, Park, and De Salva at the Haciencda.

    There was a quote in the book “How to DJ Right” about how before there was beat matching it was the guy who could leave the least amount of time between tracks was the hottest DJ.

    #1005060
    ADHDJ
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    D.J.Manhattan, post: 20915, member: 1201 wrote: Would you guys say then that song mixing / live remixing is mostly for the DJ’s Ego or say street rep? Because even my gf says that she hates when DJ’s switch out songs too fast. Although I think that to keep a good flow basic mixing is needed.

    My g/f says the same thing when a DJ doesn’t let the vocals finish on her favorite girly tracks.

    #1005074
    Steelo
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    D.J.Manhattan, post: 20915, member: 1201 wrote: Would you guys say then that song mixing / live remixing is mostly for the DJ’s Ego or say street rep? Because even my gf says that she hates when DJ’s switch out songs too fast. Although I think that to keep a good flow basic mixing is needed.

    This is just an example of mixing/live remixing done incorrectly. It should add to the music, not take away. If DJs are cutting/mixing things out too early then they just don’t know what they are doing. It should be about mixing different elements of different songs and creating something new or elevating the originals. I don’t want to sound like and old man here (and I’m not old by any means) but the problem is its easy and cheap to get in to DJing these days. Any punk high school kid can get their hands on a laptop and a free copy of VDJ and all of a sudden they call themselves DJ’s, not having a clue about the basics before trying all this crazy nonsense with controllers. You gotta crawl before you walk.

    #1005083
    FatCat
    Member

    I believe that you should try to mix as much as possible even if it’s just a cut in at the right time. If your songs are within 2 bpm of each other you could, in most cases, blend them (this obviously depends on the individual songs keys etc) I don’t think you have an excuse not to, and if you’re playing a genre like Tech House or Minimal then you REALLY have no excuse because they’re all very similar. When playing tech house I often find myself creating mashups on the fly, simply because the songs compliment each other so nicely.

    When playing things harder to mix I can see why you can’t mix them together without it sounding like trash, but you have to make a plan. Find a good place to drop it in or cut to it. Tweak your EQ to get only the vocals coming in… there are many alternatives for song transition than straight out blending.

    Be that as it may, song choice is still way more important, but I still think that DJ’s should mix as much as possible, otherwise why have us, because your crowd could always just hook up their iPod and just play one after the other. Mixing/Transitioning is part of the DJ experience, and it should be part of the service we provide.

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    Frosh, post: 20780, member: 1351 wrote: I’m definitely not hating, because I’ve seen him twice and it’s always fantastic but I think Steve Aoki is a great example of a dj who doesn’t mix. Both times I’ve seen him he isn’t even behind the decks half the time. He presses play on track A, gets out of the booth, jumps around, spits champagne, throws cake, crowd surfs, and lights things on fire before climbing back in the booth, pressing play on track B when there’s 32 beats left in track A, getting back out of the booth, and continuing to do whatever so inspires him. The great thing is you never even realize it because you’re having such a blast the whole set.

    Wow I was literally about to post that. I had only seen a few shows when I saw him and I was really confused when I noticed how little he was doing in the booth. It was a great show (love the antics and the substances) but I didn’t like it as much as other shows I had seen. He played tracks I’d heard before and some I hadn’t, but when I saw Skrillex for example, he played a good chunk of unknown stuff, but most of it was his own music. But the music he played was totally mixed and sounded completely different from what I’d heard and it was so new and exciting.

    If I was to give an analogy, it’s like getting into your car and having the interior redone awesomely. It’s still your car and you know where everything is, but now you have purple leather and exciting new buttons on your dashboard. So to end this long rambling post, I respect both, but I like mixing more. It feels more like performing and making the music your own.

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