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  • March 25, 2012 at 12:07 pm #1003357
    Prototype1
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    I think only the MC 6000 will fit your requirements. DJ Hessler is the resident expert on Denon products.

    March 25, 2012 at 2:46 pm #17314
    VinnyBlanc
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    Not considering a Numark NS6? It meets or exceeds all of your criteria as well..

    March 25, 2012 at 4:34 pm #17318
    Rob Arran
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    VinnyBlanc, post: 17398, member: 737 wrote: Not considering a Numark NS6? It meets or exceeds all of your criteria as well..

    I have looked at this one… however scouring the DDT 2012 Review I found this :-
    Big, heavy, can’t control the software’s sample decks

    March 25, 2012 at 6:31 pm #17324
    VinnyBlanc
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    Just to clarify the NS6 is smaller than the DDJ-T1 and not too much bigger than the Dennon.

    And the NS6 can absolutely control the Sample Player on the hardware itself. I will talk to Phil as the 2012 guide must be incorrect / out of date.

    Here is a picture I thought you might find useful in making your decision.

    March 25, 2012 at 6:52 pm #17327
    Rick
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    It sounds like you’ve done you’re homework. The S4 is great, however as you state you need booth out it won’t be for you.
    The Denon MC MC6000 is probably the best choice for you as it will tick every box, only downside being it can feel cramped due to its size.
    However…….. the VCI 380 – This looks like it could now be a serious contender as well. It is designed to work with Serato, but I’m sure could be mapped to other software.
    There is also the fact that there is the new Kontrol F1 launching soon which could pair nicely with whatever controller you choose!!

    If you are really struggling to make a decision the best way to decide what’s best for you is to get hands on in a DJ store. This is not always possible (I didn’t do it with any of my purchases) but it can really help in making that final difficult decision.

    Decisions Decisions indeed!!

    March 25, 2012 at 7:16 pm #17329
    synthet1c
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    VCI-400 is now an external mixer aswell, if you use vdj pro you can use the soundcard to connect your techs with timecode, or you can just play normal vinyl like a normal mixer, this would also be your safe gaurd if the computer crashes. Don’t know about traktor or serato intro, but in vdj pro you are able to use multiple soundcards, so you could get an extra soundcard like the Audio 2 and use it for a booth out you just need to map a spare knob to control the volume, you could even use the laptops onboard soundcard if you had to… This way any controller can have a booth output….

    I think the main thing to consider with the VCI-380 is that it has only 1 pot and 1 encoder for controlling effects, the rest is done with the pressure sensitivity of the pads, to me this is not very precise in comparison. The last thing is the pads are made for mashing tracks so only really suitable if you are playing rhythmic music (dubstep, drumstep, moombah, hard electro, dutch, techno)… they would be wasted on anything melodic.

    March 25, 2012 at 11:50 pm #17340
    Prototype1
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    An added source of information for you. http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2011/12/dj-midi-controllers-buyers-guide-2012/10/

    March 26, 2012 at 5:54 am #17349
    Rob Arran
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    Thanks guys, some nice info coming out and its much appreciated 🙂

    @Vinny Ill take another closer look at the NS6 if indeed it can control the sample decks!

    @ RB75 I had more or less narrowed my selection down to the denon unit until I saw the VCI380 and yes I agree that the only downside to the denon seemed to be its cramped size. There is nothing more I would like than to visit a store to view them all, however, I live on a small(ish) island just off the coast of NW Scotland (UK) so getting to a store isnt easy !

    @ Synthet1c Some interesting options there specially the vci400 info. I have only briefly looked at VDJ and was initially put off by its interface compared with traktor and serato, think ill go download the home version for a proper look.

    @ Prototype1 Thanks buddy, thats been thouroughly digested already ! 🙂

    Thanks for the snippets so far guys.

    March 26, 2012 at 3:19 pm #17363
    Prototype1
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    One more thing about the MC 3000 which I have is the pitch fader. I have tune the range down to +/- 4 % to fit the physical length of the pitch fader. I assume the 6000 is the same length

    March 26, 2012 at 7:07 pm #1003367
    Rob Arran
    Member

    Well after a bit more research (read:- drooling over pictures and techy info) I’ve narrowed it down to :-

    NS6 – Now the number one contender
    Priced at £699 with Itch or £799 with TP2

    MC6000
    Priced at £679 but will need to add £99 for TP2 upgrade

    VCI400
    Priced at £699 with Serato Intro so would need to add (imho) £155 to upgrade to TP2

    Im also going to keep an eye on the VCI380 for now, and may even wait to see a review.

    The NS6 with Itch seems like the best route to go as I could also buy TP2 at a later date (really wish I could see Itch in full working mode rather than offline mode !). If anyone has seen any of the units priced lower please let me know (unless they be on Fleabay). All priced up @ djkit.com for comparison.

    @ Proto Looks like another + for the NS6 then as that appears to have full length controls which is more of what im used to 🙂

    March 26, 2012 at 7:18 pm #1003369
    VinnyBlanc
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    I would advise against getting the NS6 with the plans to switch to traktor later.
    If you are intrested in going the Traktor route I would spend the extra money up front and get the “Numark 4Trak” (the Traktor version of the NS6 which is identical but also includes a seperate bolt on FX unit to better utilize the Trakotr FX)

    I would search on YouTube for some videos of Itch in action since you aren’t able to go hands on without a piece of ITCH hardware.

    Best of luck, and let us know what you end up with.

    March 26, 2012 at 7:39 pm #1003372
    Rob Arran
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    VinnyBlanc, post: 17461, member: 737 wrote: I would advise against getting the NS6 with the plans to switch to traktor later.
    If you are intrested in going the Traktor route I would spend the extra money up front and get the “Numark 4Trak” (the Traktor version of the NS6 which is identical but also includes a seperate bolt on FX unit to better utilize the Trakotr FX)

    I would search on YouTube for some videos of Itch in action since you aren’t able to go hands on without a piece of ITCH hardware.

    Best of luck, and let us know what you end up with.

    Now this is why I’m glad I posted…. Thanks for the heads up. (just listened to your electro mix for March btw. V Nice but Adele gets everywhere ;p) Off to check out some vids of Itch.

    Better just add that the wife shouted she likes the Adele remix….. better go look for something with Adele in to add to the collection 🙂

    March 26, 2012 at 8:27 pm #17381
    Rob Arran
    Member

    Pretty much sold on Itch now 🙂
    Especially after watching a couple of the ‘bridge’ vids too. Not sure if it integrates with Itch (appeared to be used with scratch live) but it would certainly add another dimension as Ive already dabbled with Ableton.

    July 20, 2012 at 12:00 pm #1008245
    Rob Arran
    Member

    OooooK…. been a while since I posted this thread but I just thought I’d let people know what I ended up getting.
    In the end I decided to wait and go for the VCI380 and can honestly say it rocks !
    I’ve had it for a good while now and still havent discovered all of its functions 🙂 Gonna keep me happy for a long time.

    July 24, 2012 at 8:44 pm #1008546
    Phil Morse
    Keymaster

    I’m loving the VCI-380 at the moment too 🙂

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