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  • #1019729
    DJ Vintage
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    Not an easy question to answer.

    Personally I think the difference in price between the SX and any serious alternative isn’t gonna be so big that it will make the difference. If you want portability and absolute build quality for the road, the MC6000 MkII from Denon is versatile and about 2/3 of the price of an SX (at least here). It already had the video support for VDJ, but now it’s Serato approved I am guessing it will do Serato video too. It’s the proverbial tank, will fit easily in a 19″ flightcase and with the new version the layout is slightly less cluttered and more logical (most users biggest gripe with it in mkI).

    For the road I would never go back to TTs and a mixer, especially if you want to do timecode. Too much to hookup, carry, etx. And yes there is needles and all that stuff to worry about and keep spares for.

    If you are comfortable with the SX and it’s not really lacking any major features that you expect to come out in future products, I would probably try to go for another SX. Perhaps you can get a used one?

    Greetinx,

    Chuck

     

    #1020264
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    SX is definitely one of the best out there at this time.

    #1027653
    Isaiah Furrow
    Participant

    Man, sorry to hear about your loss…..

    I am in a similar boat right now, I have a Serato controller, but it’s not up to par for gigs.   I would like to stick to Serato, actually I’d like to upgrade from Intro to Serato DJ.  I have been looking into the Denon MC2000 for it’s size, but it’s an Intro controller and doesn’t appear to be set up for taking advantage of the full software.   I will now be looking into the 6000Mk2, the DDJ-SR, and the Vestax VCI-380.   I am hoping to find something with loud, high quality output, and to make good use of the full Serato software.   Also, I am concerned with cue volume, as my current controller is almost unusable when the PA is rockin’ loud.  I will be following this thread to see what other input is given, and also in hopes that the OP lets us know what he ended up deciding to go with, and how it’s working out.      Moonshadow

    #1027678
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Hi Moonshadow,

    As “loud” goes, you should not, never, ever, send out a signal “hotter” than 0dB average to the PA. And I don’t believe there are any controllers out there that can’t do that level easily. The only place you might get into trouble is when you go from RCA to balanced XLR/Jack. Why? Because consumer level RCA out is about 0,5V peak, on professional level 1.7V. In sound level terms, this is a HUGE difference. So, if you were to run your RCA’s straight into pro-level gear, you’d need to have a level gain somewhere. Jack/XLR should never be a problem.

    I can only speak for the MC6000 (mkI) as far as sound quality goes and I say it is great, more than sufficient for our goals. The mkII has an even better sound card on board. Same goes for headphone levels. I can NOT turn my headphone level knob past the 60% or so line or it’s just way too loud for my ears.

    Good luck and greetinx.

    #1027686
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    There are some controllers that are a little weak actually. The Novation Twitch is the most prominent… you have a hard time to get to 0 db with it…

    #1027689
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Ok, thanks for that. I wonder why. It’s standards, you know this is what is expected as a manufacturer. Not something that should surprise you, as you can test it, lol.

    Oh well. Listen to Terry kids!

    #1027915
    Dizzle
    Participant

    Biased suggestion here: The Vestax VCI-300 is probably half that price used right now. Even the upgrade, the VCI-380 is probably only around $400 now. As for midi platters w/o drive motors, it’s tough to beat Vestax’s I used the 380… the pads and relatively compact size make it a great 2 channel midi mixer that has a built-in standalone mixer. Just in case you want to use it in a DVS setup as well.

    #1027967
    Lamid45G
    Participant

    Sorry for the loss there man, that sucks big time,

    Hopefully in the future you can prevent it from happening again,

    #1028100
    Isaiah Furrow
    Participant

    Thanks for the input folks, my main issue is with my Mixtrack Pro 2, when the PA is loud, the cue volume on full is just not near loud enough….  not nearly as loud as the cue on my analog mixer….   also, the master out isn’t that loud either… so I usually run it into the analog mixer, then adjust gain to get near 0 dB….   otherwise I have to work my amp much harder running just the MTP2 into the amp….   I’ll be starting a thread soon, so I’ll stop cluttering this thread up with my ramblings…. but thanks to all for input, and I’ll be following this one still to see what the OP ended up deciding on…

     

    #1028118
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    The way you do it (setting the gain to get 0db) is absolutely right.

    About the volume of the cue, what headphones are you using? Cause good headphones also mean more volume…

    #1028227
    Isaiah Furrow
    Participant

    Terry,

    Right now I am using some cheap phones from the record shop, JVC I think….   they don’t isolate well, and I know even cheap “DJ” headphones will be much better…. However, these headphones are quite loud even on my iPod, and can get WAY TOO LOUD hooked into my Stanton analog mixer…. I have also tried a couple other sets of phones on the MTP2 and it’s just not loud at all….  I have a workaround for now, until my new controller arrives I will be running the MTP2 into the right side of my mixer, and the cue output into the left side of the mixer, I can then use the mixer to “amplify” it and use the mixer cue out to plug my phones into… I have the appropriate cabling and will be giving it a go at a house party Sat…..   I can make do for now….

    Look for my “gear list” thread in the forum soon…. I hope to be ordering by next Friday…. just a couple more little hoops to navigate…LOL

    Thanks again to all on DDJT, sorry to jack the thread, I’ll continue this in a new one… Terry, just wait and reply in the new thread….    Hope the OP is able to get a new controller soon, and one that works out well for them….

    Later folks,

    Moonshadow

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