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January 3, 2015 at 5:48 am #2115041
DJ Vintage
ModeratorHi Rob,
Another old vinyl jock here (going back to 1974 LOL).
I’ll be warning against setting your budget too tight, as you might run the risk of getting something that is not gonna give you the full/right kind of Digital DJ-ing experience.
Not sure about the pricing in the UK, but the controllers we generally “recommend” as being suitable for starting controllers while still being good enough to set your first playing out steps with (house parties, perhaps the odd small venue/bar) are
Pioneer DDJ-SB
Denon MC2000 (if you like the SB but need gain/level knobs this would be the most likely alternative, imho)
Numark MixTrack Pro2 (also no gain knobs)
Reloop BeatMix 2 (with gain knobs)Noticing/feeling the lack of gain buttons IS a typical analogue DJ thing. I personally would have serious problems not having a gain button. Many guys that start on digital though, they will either trust the auto-gain function in their DJ software and/or run everything through something like Platinum Notes (which is what I use), so the actual use for a gain knob is slightly less than it used to be in all fairness. Cranking up EQs would not be on my list of feasible alternatives.
As far as going for Serato because it’s included with most non-Traktor controllers goes, you’ll end up having to buy the full version because none of the mentioned controllers will give you a full Serato license, just the intro version. Also, the fact that they come with Serato (and/or are “optimised” for Serato) doesn’t mean that you can’t look at some of the other options. Virtual DJ and Mixvibes Cross are certainly contenders when it comes to DJ Software that will work great with the mentioned controllers. The recently released DJay Pro for Mac is also worth a quick peek. Depending on your ambitions and your workflow it might be for you.
Hope this helps some.
January 3, 2015 at 9:19 am #2115101Trev Ox
ParticipantHi,
I was DJ-ing with vinyl in the 70s and am also studying the digital music scene now. To test my vocation, I decided on Serato as my main DJ software, and used eBay to get a secondhand Vestax VCI-300. This comes with Serato Itch, but Serato DJ is a free download for the full version. I’ve also ordered an Akai-AMX because maximum portability is a goal (my nearest city is a long bus or short plane-ride away).
The VCI-300 has gain knobs for its two channels, although they are marked “Trim”. For other controllers, I would start with the Serato site’s Hardware page and check out those controllers listed as being “Serato DJ Enabled” as opposed to “Serato DJ Upgrade Ready” – the former is a free download for the full version, the latter a paid upgrade.
Hope this helps.
January 3, 2015 at 10:43 am #2115111DJ Vintage
ModeratorOnly warning about Vestax (in general) at this time is that they are apparently out of business and their website is off the air, meaning no access to drivers. Especially if you are on a windows platform this can present somewhat of a problem.
January 3, 2015 at 12:22 pm #2115131Trev Ox
ParticipantMy understanding is that if you use class compliant devices you don’t need special drivers.
Vestax VCI-100, VCI-300, VCI-380, VCI-400, VFX-1, Spin, Spin2 and Typhoon are all listed as class compliant on the digitaldjtips.com “how-to-use-your-dj-controller-with-your-ipad” page. The VCI-300 and 380 should be good to buy secondhand for Serato DJ as there is a free download for the full version, which recognizes those controllers as ‘kosher’ for use.January 3, 2015 at 7:57 pm #2115231Terry_42
KeymasterClass compliant = no drivers needed on MAC OS X.
You need drivers on Windows (ASIO) to get the latency issues of Windows audio management out of the way. (The controller will work without those drivers as it is compliant, but you will have huge latency issues)Also you will not have access to the latest Vestax firmware. Some controllers had serious issues that got ironed out through firmware upgrades. Now buying second hand you have no idea if the latest firmware (which was excellent) is included.
January 3, 2015 at 8:10 pm #2115261DJ Tucker
ParticipantYou want a Denon MC2000 along with the full version of whatever software you end up liking. Don’t sleep on Virtual DJ 8 too. With a full license you can remap any button or knob on the controller to any function. I always remap the sync button to a vinyl brake effect, for instance.
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