Come on Serato!
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July 15, 2013 at 6:32 am #42205
Brian Brown
ParticipantI got an email about this last night.
Am i being thick but what is the purpose of this software? The setup page shows (for example) a controller connecting to a laptop and then a tablet attached to the laptop. It says that you need Serato DJ to use Remote. Why take a laptop and a tablet out with you? I’m sure i’ve missed the point somewhere. It was late when i read the info 🙂July 15, 2013 at 8:33 am #42209Lamid45G
ParticipantWell i guess IF you really got the urge to go to the bathroom for the #1 emergency during your gig, you can control the Serato at the comfort of your ya know …
July 15, 2013 at 12:17 pm #42213Andrew Batz
ParticipantHere’s the point. I have a WeGO on Serato DJ (paid for the upgrade). My controller has no buttons for loops, and can only be on 2 decks at a time. The app is like a controller extension. It allows me to hit loops and cues from any of my decks wirelessly or via USB for low latency (or for crappy wifi connections).
Personally, getting it later.July 15, 2013 at 2:24 pm #42216Dj Emazing
ParticipantAndrewbatz, post: 42370, member: 2051 wrote: Here’s the point. I have a WeGO on Serato DJ (paid for the upgrade). My controller has no buttons for loops, and can only be on 2 decks at a time.
Personally, getting it later.That’s what the keyboard shortcuts are for, O,P,[ & ] are the shortcuts for looping, I don’t think there is a single controller/mixer/effect pad is going to give you use of all the features from any djing software by buttons.
July 16, 2013 at 5:01 am #42237DJ Vintage
ModeratorFrom what I gather, the remote let’s you easily control FX too. And for that touch is pretty, darn, nice.
I have to agree that an iPad app that doesn’t take away the need for a computer does lose some of it’s magic. I have to admit though that I am gonna experiment a little with a MixVibes Cross setup just like that. I am building a flightcased PC that I connect everything too, and then have a wireless iPad sit in front of me for easy browsing and such.
So, bit of a mixed feeling here.
Generally you would expect the advent of an iPad controller app to provide extra functionality (like it might in this case by giving you touchscreen control over FX) or take away the necessity of other equipment, like a laptop.
Greetinx,
C.July 16, 2013 at 7:27 am #42254Terry_42
KeymasterVery simple, it is the same thing that you can do with TouchOSC or similar MIDI iPad solutions, but it is pre-mapped for Serato and has the same functions. So in case you have a smaller controller than the full Serato controllers, up until now you had to buy an additional MIDI controller pad, if you already have an iPad you can now use the remote to perform that functions.
I find it a good idea and it has nothing to do with a DJ application for the iPad.
I think it is brilliant and easy to use, like Serato itself.July 16, 2013 at 4:26 pm #42272Dj Emazing
ParticipantThe point I’m trying to make out here is that Serato seems like they are taking the fun out of being an actual dj. I wouldn’t be surprised if they came out with emulator such as tonetable and discontinued the SL and the TM mixer series. Though I am not that much of a fan for the SL series I think their mixers are extremely cool. I had to disable lots of options in virtual dj to get it down right to regular djing(such as disabling effect reset and pitch reset). Another thing about Serato is that it seems when they come out with one thing as soon as you buy it they are already doing something else which made what you brought irrelevant. I think I recall their video plugin became free for those who brought the SL 4, I felt sorry for those who had already brought the plugin for $99 USD and also had wanted to get the SL4 seems like a waste of money. My experience was through the SL1 I finally got one and the SL2 had came out the next week, this was during my college years.
July 16, 2013 at 8:46 pm #42289Terry_42
KeymasterIf you have a problem with Serato’s development cycle then you have a real problem, as Serato is prolly the slowest company when developing new features. Traktor and VDJ are much faster when doing stuff. Serato usually take a lot of time before developing something and before putting it on the market.
However Serato is not repsonsible for how fast other companies (and Rane is not Serato) bring new stuff. So if a company brings a new Serato controller every 3 months, it is not the problem of the Software and in fact it is not a problem at all, since it wont have much you will need. Especially some hip hop DJs I know still use an SL1 and an old version of SSL. I see no problem, unless you have the urge to always upgrade, which in 99% of the time is unnecessary.July 17, 2013 at 8:41 am #42304henley
ParticipantThe clue is in the name. It’s a remote control for Serato. As was said before, some controllers don’t have enough buttons to control everything, or they’re an afterthought. It’s also less intrusive having a little iPad in front of you rather than a laptop screen. It might even help get rid of SeratoFace (!).
I think that SSL users will find it more useful than SDJ.July 20, 2013 at 1:26 am #42429VinnyBlanc
ParticipantWhere else can you get a midi controller that has perfect intergration where with one touch screen control surface you can activate/set/delete cues / control your effects and do loops / rolls for $20?
This is more of a tool for the SSL users who are not as well represented on this form compared to the Serato DJ users who probably have a majority of this functionality on their midi controllers already.
Adding the Remote App on my Ipad is giving me the same functionality on my Rane TTM56+SL1 ($700) that I could get on the Rane 62 ($2000)….I’m still saving for my 62 thought (don’t get me wrong)….
July 21, 2013 at 5:22 am #42447Dj Emazing
ParticipantI understand everyone comments and don’t disagree with any of them, it’s just that I thought Serato to more suited for the traditional Dj. Why a dj would ever need a remote for djing(for corntrolling loops or effects) I just don’t know.
July 21, 2013 at 10:53 pm #42458VinnyBlanc
ParticipantDj Emazing, post: 42604, member: 9575 wrote: I understand everyone comments and don’t disagree with any of them, it’s just that I thought Serato to more suited for the traditional Dj. Why a dj would ever need a remote for djing(for corntrolling loops or effects) I just don’t know.
Isn’t it easier/more accurate to control an effect (high pass filter) with a quick swipe of the screen instead of using the laptop to try and do it? Again, this is in a situation where you may not have a 57 or 62 or other hardware controller to control effects…
July 22, 2013 at 6:48 am #42475Terry_42
KeymasterI totally agree, if you do already have an excellent Serato Controller (DDJ-SX, Terminal Mix,…) you prolly will not need the remote.
However for a minimalistic setup with SSL (2 turntables, cheapest Rane mixer) this thing is definitely a winner.
I can also see people who have a very small and limited controller (aka beginner controller) that they outgrow, to invest 20 bucks and expand their setup for another year before having to invest LOTs more for a bigger controller.July 24, 2013 at 3:11 am #42537Dj Emazing
ParticipantVinnyBlanc, post: 42615, member: 737 wrote: Isn’t it easier/more accurate to control an effect (high pass filter) with a quick swipe of the screen instead of using the laptop to try and do it?
As djs we are relying way to much on technology, don’t get me wrong this is the digital era and I love it but the tech is not supposed to make djing easier only the access to djing. For instance carrying crates of vinyl was too much for a dj alone so the CDJ’s where born and then the HDD(Hard Disk Drive) was introduce because you could load tons of songs to you computer. Apps like this is not only giving easier access for djing but it is making djing too easy. If someone can afford a tablet or $600 iphone/Samsung then I’m pretty sure they can afford a small beat pad for serato. A lot of the apps are making it way too easy to dj, sooner or later djing will no longer be an occupation due to these apps.
July 24, 2013 at 5:36 am #42543DJ Vintage
ModeratorDj Emazing, post: 42694, member: 9575 wrote: As djs we are relying way to much on technology …
This I would agree with, the danger most present for young, starting DJ’s. A bit like calculators back in the day. Then a tool to aid in math, now a replacement. Most young people working the cash register have not learned the ability to do mental arithmitic. They need a calculator to even add three numbers. I use a calculator all the time, but can do pretty big calculations on paper if need be. This is not only a handy skill when no calculator is available, but when using a calculator I know full well the theory behind it. I know EXACTLY what the calculator is doing and why. It’s not bad if you use a sync button, as long as you fully understand the mechanisms behind it, the reason you can’t use it all the time and -very important- the insight into WHEN you can and cannot use it.
… sooner or later djing will no longer be an occupation due to these apps.
This I doubt, for the very reason we have discussed here many a time and which you stated also: “technology doesn’t make the DJ”. The audience wants to dance to music and have a good time. At the end of the day they don’t care what technology a DJ uses to play that music. I am pretty convinced that no algorythm can replace the human mind and (more importantly) intuition that comes from practice and experience when it comes to music selection, audience interaction and such.
Greetinx,
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