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  • #1011718
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    I still cannot determine what it gives me more than a good midi controller and I am sure the waveforms on my MBP 15” are still bigger than on that display… (parallel waveforms ftw) and the jog is still the same loud thing as always. I cannot see where the big innovation is, wireless? I do not trust wireless in a club with 400 iPhones….

    #1011749
    Steelo
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    Its a great piece of kit but does not offer anything that isn’t already available. Its obviously for the DJs who still prefer to stick to CDJ and mixer setups over digital. It offers a lot of flexibility and I’m sure plays very well with Traktor. Like Terry said, the idea of wireless is a little scary. Everyone owns iphones these days too.

    #1011752
    synthet1c
    Member

    Yes it does… Now anyone with an apple/android tablet or smartphone can manage their library anywhere and connect straight into the cdj. Pioneer are setting a new standard that everyone will follow as clubs will get these in their arsenal soon enough. These give all the best bits of software to everyone and make it accessible to any dj who will come into contact with them. The best thing is you can sort your library on the train or on your sofa using their app… I have a windows tablet to do the same for VDJ but it is a hassle to transfer across between the tablet and my laptop, this looks simple! Not a fan of the waveforms and sync but the connectivity is spot on!

    #1011768
    DeeJay SiBoogie
    Participant

    synthet1c, post: 28134, member: 1107 wrote: Now anyone with an apple/android tablet or smartphone can manage their library anywhere and connect straight into the cdj.

    Any one or everyone with WIFI enabled on their phone in the club can screw with the DJ’s wifi.
    Industry’s First DJ Player with Wireless Source Capability “
    I used to use WIFI for my set up (CDJ900) at home to cut down on wires but with the latest release of RB it got screwed, now I can’t get the decks to connect and the app tells me it can’t find a connection. Not a major issue but for Pioneer to claim the new 2000’s wireless capabilty is a first is plain BS hype
    When I called it a controller over at Pioneer I had DJ’s wanting to crucify me (LOL) but really it’s an upgrade to recently XDJ with a CD player tagged on. You have beat and tempo sync, quantized loops and needle drop, I can stand in the booth doing a Jesus pose now like DG knowing everything I do will be on beat…..now how boring would that be. At least Paris will be able to beat match on ’em.

    #1011835
    rfb
    Member

    synthet1c: While all this might hold true in theory, that sorta implies that “everybody” -as you put it- also uses a Pioneer setup and Rekordbox software at home. And neither do I see me buying those big and pricy CDJs, nor do I wanna use Rekordbox, when it can’t do anything I can’t do better between iTunes and Traktor. So for all of us who prefer a digital setup of whatever kind at home (less expensive, takes up less space, lets you do MORE than a several thousands of dollars full Pioneer setup) when you show up at the venue, neither your hardware workflow nor your prepped tracks (in other software) translate to the CDJs.

    #1011839
    Steelo
    Participant

    Its just a different system for a different type of DJ. If I had heard about this 4 years ago it would be the best DJ related news I’d heard in a long time cause I only used the CDJ + mixer setup with the occasional vinyl set here and there.

    #1011840
    synthet1c
    Member

    fair enough that most people won’t buy a set, but every club in the world will because pioneer have made the more advanced technology accessible to anyone “atleast in the preparation stages which are becoming ever increasingly more important as people fail to learn to beatmatch”.

    The thing that most interests me is the laptop connectivity and whether or not these things send midi/HID over wifi as I like you wouldn’t want to give up my software, but would love to be able to use the players as controllers and be able to connect easily. I haven’t read anything confirming or denying it though.

    #1011921
    DeeJay SiBoogie
    Participant

    synthet1c, post: 28226, member: 1107 wrote: fair enough that most people won’t buy a set, but every club in the world will because pioneer have made the more advanced technology accessible to anyone “atleast in the preparation stages which are becoming ever increasingly more important as people fail to learn to beatmatch”.

    The thing that most interests me is the laptop connectivity and whether or not these things send midi/HID over wifi as I like you wouldn’t want to give up my software, but would love to be able to use the players as controllers and be able to connect easily. I haven’t read anything confirming or denying it though.

    The WIFI is for RB only, the same goes for most of the new functions such as the new waveform and the quantization. If your using CDs or a flash drive with non RB playlist the wave form won’t be there. The no mention if the waveform will work in advanced HID probably because Pioneer want their customer to use their software and entice people away from DVS

    #1011924
    DeeJay SiBoogie
    Participant

    So here in the UK they go for £1500 each so this seems like the end of the line for the 2000 mk1 as the price is the similar. A lot of online shops have already taken the mk1 off the sites Big money and if I didn’t already own the 900’s I may have got these. However, not all is rosy. RekordBox is still unstable; it crashes it you sneeze. You could have a file that plays in any other program without a problem but try to load it into RB and it crashes. Pioneer’s response will be that the file is at fault. Got a USB drive that works in any other USB port but fails to work in CDJ, Pioneer will tell you it’s the drive. Go on their forum and they admit the Ethernet cable they pack with the CDJ’s is cheap rubbish and should be changed. Why not admit the USB ports are cheap too, that’s why a common fault is that the back USB ports fall apart. A bit like buying a Rolls Royce and finding it’s got cheap economy tyres. May be I should have got the Denon S3900, may be I will if RekordBox doesn’t improve in the next update. The question is though “Is engine any better than RekordBox?” As I’m writing this I’m struggling to get RB to link to my CDJ’s…again. The woes of a DJ…lol

    #1011980
    Todd Oddity
    Participant

    Maybe I’ll be proven wrong, but I really don’t see clubs that already stock 2000’s rushing out to replace them with these.

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