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  • #1013439
    backtothefront
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    In the most part 320kbps MP3s are absolutely fine, it all depends on the source file of course and it’s mixdown and mastering. But in the main 320kbps are fine. If you can afford lossless then yes, def go with that.

    #1013440
    DrBlue
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    backtothefront, post: 29906, member: 1433 wrote: In the most part 320kbps MP3s are absolutely fine, it all depends on the source file of course and it’s mixdown and mastering. But in the main 320kbps are fine. If you can afford lossless then yes, def go with that.

    When u say lossless (you men like not compressed or whatever).. can u get that on beatport or any similar sites? and the Mp3 formats on beatport, are those 320kps? larger, smaller?

    #1013443
    Anonymous
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    Beatport sells 320k MP3s. AIFF is good as it could contain meta-data such as track names. For remixing, always get the WAV/AIFF files. For playing live, well that’s a big debate. My take is, crappy bar sound system, anything sounds bad. Huge 10000 WATT system, you better have lots of low end (WAV/AIFF.) Bedroom or internet streaming DJ:ing, MP3s are just fine.

    #1013452
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    I play and played very large venues with excellent sound systems and can tell you:
    mp3: Anything above 256k is fine. (I use 320k just to be sure)
    aac/mp4/iTunes: The current 256k is just fine and sounds a tad more dynamic than mp3 in my opinion

    WAV/AIFF are of course fine since they are lossless.

    #1013460
    backtothefront
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    DrBlue, post: 29907, member: 1831 wrote: When u say lossless (you men like not compressed or whatever).. can u get that on beatport or any similar sites? and the Mp3 formats on beatport, are those 320kps? larger, smaller?

    As the chaps above have said, AIFF/WAV are 2 lossless formats, so will sound pretty much as the producer intended with no audio compression. They are larger and generally more expensive to buy (still cheaper than vinyl! 😉 ), but ultimately the best choice. I mainly use 320kbps MP3s for playing out in bars/clubs/radio show and not had an issue to date. As internet speeds and affordable storage continue to increase, lossless will be the staple choice I believe and really this is the way we should be heading. Compressed audio, one could argue, is a regression from vinyl and CD, so it will be good to see the world come out the other side of a decade (and a bit) of mainstream compressed audio consumption.

    #1013469
    Rob Francis
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    MP3 320 is fine unless you are playing proper big clubs, chances are you are not otherwise you would be famous and probably not on these forums!

    MP3s tend to be more universal and you can store tags on the files so are more useful. I tried to use Apple’s lossless format for a while but some DJ software won’t play it.

    WAVs are great but I hate paying the extra £1 just for the file – total rip off in my opinion.

    #1013480
    DrBlue
    Member

    Aight, thanks for the lessons.. and yes, im just playing around in my bedroom, but having been listening too vinyl and cds alot, i just want to make sure im not decreasing my sound quality.. Seems like mp3 320 is fine for now, however I have 1 more practical question: If one were to buy a track of,f lets say beatport (as thats what i use atm), and i pay 2$ for a track in mp3 format, i later wish to change format and return too get the .aiff format. Do i get it for only 1$ or do I have to pay the full price over again?

    #1013491
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    I played in a venue for 8k people with my mp3/mp4’s and had no complaints.
    Armin van Buuren and Paul van Dyk both stated in interviews they use mp3s 192k and up, same with Ean Golden. I cannot see why the size of the venue dictates the sound file you use.
    Actually the lower your volume and the more slight dynamics the song has (aka playing in a bar or lounge) the better your files should be.

    #1013504
    madman
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    320kbs MP3’s are no problem at all, I think around 90% of my music collection is in that file format. I don;t think you can hear a difference between that and lossless audio formats. I only use wav files when I use it in a remix that I’m making, but that’s only for when I slow down th tempo with more than 25% or so.

    #1013603
    DrBlue
    Member

    Terry_42, post: 29959, member: 1843 wrote: I played in a venue for 8k people with my mp3/mp4’s and had no complaints.
    Armin van Buuren and Paul van Dyk both stated in interviews they use mp3s 192k and up, same with Ean Golden. I cannot see why the size of the venue dictates the sound file you use.
    Actually the lower your volume and the more slight dynamics the song has (aka playing in a bar or lounge) the better your files should be.

    Hmm, wasnt aware of that.. I`ve heard that compressed files get sorta “thin” at bigger soundsytems, but I guess its just a myth.. That sorta hifi mentality i guess (your audio is only as good as it weakest link, to justify buying a cable that cost 1k ^^ )

    #1013607
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    There was a recent Armin Van Buren Youtube video where he showed his CDJ video and audio setup and he said that he uses WAVs…

    #1013628
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    You will get enough Pros using mp3’s… even if van Buuren switched back to wav (prolly only because he gets his promos this way, or do you think he pays for music?). Check out BT or Sasha… presonally I do not like what they play, but they use mp3 also.

    You are right that sound gets thin if the dynamic range is not enough, this hold true for 128k and below in my opinion.
    I honestly cannot hear any difference on 192k and up. (Well I can, but only in a controlled environment with audiophile reference equipment and not a PA.)

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