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July 4, 2015 at 10:13 am #2220151
A.D.
ParticipantHi what kind of problems do you run into?
I your Toshiba uses a AMD processor you are likely to run into (sound distorion and digital noise) problems.
If it is an i3 Intel….in some cases same thing…
You can make it work but you have to get into the computer management and shutdown hardware from using resources… but is no garrantyI run two Lenovo T 530 at this moment… 8 gigs of RAM and a SDD disk.
This run my laptops very fast.
This fall I start testing the Toshiba Z50. Mostly becoause my Lenovo are getting older and are heavy.
Also the z50 has a back-lite keyboardFurther… I know this sound like a bummer But don’t do regular work on your music laptop… Just update windows, and other stuff… but thats it… no office tasks or school projects and NO INTERNETTING.
This wil prevend general problems with playing serato
Hope this helps
July 4, 2015 at 12:54 pm #2220251bob6397
ParticipantI wouldn’t necessarily agree with what A.D has put on most fronts…
AMD processors are not by default inferior to Intel – Indeed the desktop AMD processors offer the same performance for often half/a quarter of the price of Intel equivalents. I use one such processor in my gaming PC – £120 of AMD processor is equivalent to around £400 of Intel. No contest for me.
However – In laptops, AMD are behind Intel in terms of power usage and in terms of processor performance. AMD processors are also not officially supported by Serato – so in this instance I would looking at getting an Intel i5 (3rd Gen or higher) processor. (Btw, you can tell the generation of an Intel Processor from it’s model number – each one has 4 numbers, the first number is the generation. EG. i5 2430 <- This is a 2nd Gen intel i5 processor.)
Second is your Windows management. On my laptop (I only have 1 laptop and use it for everything, I just know how to set it up right – Mine is 5 years old now and quicker than a lot of new laptops – and it only cost me £400..) I manage everything very carefully. I run a program called CCleaner every month or so – this cleans up everything and removes temporary files etc. – and I keep my laptop hard drive clean at all times, by which I mean that I uninstall anything I don’t need any more, I run antivirus and I keep everything updated (apart from iTunes..).
I would run the latest version of windows (although give Windows 10 a few months to get the bugs fixed before you upgrade to it after it comes out soon) – I use 8.1 – and update it regularly. I would turn off auto-updating though.
In short – use your PC for whatever you like, but manage it. If you can afford to have another laptop just for DJing then go for it, but I know that I can’t and that I don’t need to.
Other hardware considerations are:
1) How much RAM? Many people DJ using 4GB of RAM (I would not recommend anything less) and they can perform fine. I upgraded my laptop myself to 8GB of RAM and wouldn’t change it back though. It is surprising how much faster your PC can go with such a cheap upgrade.
2) Hard drive. Do you want an SSD? if you do, can you afford one with enough storage to store everything on? HDD’s (or SSD’s) are much harder to upgrade than other components like RAM, especially in a laptop, so make sure you get this right at the start. Personally, I use a 500GB hard drive in my laptop and it just under half way full. This is plenty of space for me, but it may not be for you. An SSD is not necessary however – more speed can be gained from disabling programs running unnecessarily on startup than from getting a new SSD over a HDD.
I would also recommend getting a backlit keyboard on your new PC – you do not know how useful they are until you have tried one in a dark DJ booth!!
Other than that, I would google “How to optimize PC for Serato” – there will be instructions on there on how to make Serato run better. Do you common sense though – if you start going into “Regedit”, stay well away unless you know what you are doing and if they get you to disable something you might want to use, don’t disable it!! (EG wifi).
A lot of people will tell you to only use your Laptop for DJing – and there are arguments for it, and if I could afford to then I would. But it is not necessary. Manage your PC, learn how it works and then everything should work fine..
Hint: If you want us to recommend anything in particular, a budget may be useful.. 🙂
bob6397
July 4, 2015 at 8:47 pm #2220291Stazbumpa
ParticipantThe rules (abridged from bob’s suggestions ;-)):
i5 CPU
4Gb RAM should be fine, 8Gb for safety though.
SSD – This is not negotiable. Either buy a laptop with one fitted or get one after and fit it yourself. A 240-256Gb SSD, or thereabouts, will do nicely.
Get the Windows install disc. Demand this from your vendor, because the first thing you’re going to do with your shiny new laptop is format the drive and reinstall Windows from scratch.Everything else is dependent on your budget, but for me the above are the core values for DJ’ing on a Windows laptop. I also agree with bob, you can use your laptop for more than just DJ’ing as long as you’re smart and don’t download daft things.
July 5, 2015 at 12:04 am #2220301Todd Oddity
ParticipantThumbs up to the backlit keyboard. Makes a huge difference – once you’ve used one you’ll never go back.
July 5, 2015 at 3:16 am #2220311Luke Butzen
ParticipantActually, here’s a statement for Serato themselves concerning AMD processors: “Some users have reported problems with Serato software running on machines with AMD processors. Our in-house testing has also shown that AMD equipped PCs can, in some cases cause serious performance problems.
Due to the number of reports we have had of this problem we do not support machines with AMD processors for use with Serato software.” This was taken directly from the support site.
Stazbumpa has it down somewhat:
i5 CPU
4Gb RAM should be fine, 8Gb for safety though.An SSD is a pricey thing and at that size, unless you find a good deal, not worth it. I found a 15.4″ with an i5, 6gb of ram, and a 250 gb HDD with Windows 8.1 for less than 200$ USD on Ebay, so it might be worth it to surf around in there for a week or so and see what you can find.
To sum up,
Intel i3-5 core (i5 if you want to future proof for the foreseeable future.)
4-8 GB of ram
and unless you can find a good deal on an SSD, or you’re using this to tour, a small ish HDD (250) should suit you fine.A dope idea that would be pricey is to have a dual HD set up with a SSD to hold your tunes & serato files with the HDD holding whatever but again, pricey and a little redundant.
July 5, 2015 at 5:14 am #2220331DJ Vintage
ModeratorI have to side with Staz here. SSD is the single most important performance boost you can give your laptop/pc.
Apple MacBook only requires removal of the optical drive (who needs one nowadays) and a bracket to fit in that space that will hold an extra HD/SSD. So not too much hassle to have a “dope” solution.
As for the price of SSD’s, the idea that they are crazy expensive is a bit behind the curve these days. You can get a decent performer for around 35-38 cents a gig (250 gig running 85 -100 approx.). The faster high end ones can be had for around 125. 500GB from around 160 and up.
And while still not as cheap as regular HDs, they have two MAJOR advantages over HDs:
1) Speed. Noticeable from boot (laptops booting in 15-30 seconds), opening programs and reading tracks
2) NO moving parts! Don’t underestimate this one. Even if a drunken guest bumps into your DJ table hard and knocks your laptop half of it’s tray or -like happened to me a few weeks ago on a gig on a canal boat- the captain drives into the underside of the bridge, nothing will happen with your HD.While modern HDs have all kinds of protection, if a disc is actually spinning when it’s jolted, chances of a severely (and I do mean (partially) beyond repair) crash are very real.
250GB should be fine to hold operating system, DJ software, music (if you have more than 2000 tracks in your core collection you need to rethink your strategy anyway, imho) and the odd bits and bobs that you might need.
As always, if you can’t dedicate a laptop to just DJ with, go for a dual boot system, giving you the option to boot into a DJ-only environment that you can fine tune for the purpose.
July 6, 2015 at 12:10 am #2220461Slimboyfat
ParticipantI was a Windows laptop performer for many years, until that is, a skipping and grinding to a halt windows laptop was making me look rather stupid (i know, that’s not hard)
and yes, I’m going to sound like an “apple fanboy”……but for the last 3 years, I’ve used a macbook pro, with an SSD replacement in the optical bay as above and it has NEVER failed me…
In fact, one night, I ran Serato, ADJ’s MyDMX2 software running several effects AND kJams karaoke software with a lot of libary……not once did it cry or moan that it had insufficient this or insufficient that, or just randomly blue screen cos it felt like it.
I’m upgrading to a new MBP in the next few weeks…..and yes, it will cost much more than a similarly specced Windows laptop…..but i know it will do the job and not fall over mid-performace…….I also know that it will retain its value when i upgrade and not be worth £5 or a door wedge which the winblows laptop will.
get what you pay for 😉
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