anyone have done disco music mixes with digital equipment?
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February 16, 2012 at 1:52 am #15016
Dayvue
MemberAre you asking about how to mix 2 songs together as a transition? I don’t know if you know how to beatmatch by ear yet, but it is an essential skill for mixing songs in which the tempo drifts.
February 17, 2012 at 8:14 am #1003026Pär Hessler
ParticipantIt is no harder than doing it on a CDJ!
You have to use your software without quantice, snap and sync!Or you run all the tracks in Ableton Live and grid them to get constant BPM 🙂
February 23, 2012 at 10:18 pm #15532Yulia
MemberHello Dayvue and thanks for your answer. Yes, i´m talking about mix 2 songs un transition. But with a digital software and controller i find it a little bit difficult.I have worked with cdj and learn to make the beatmatching but here with the automatic synchronization seems more entangled.
February 23, 2012 at 10:21 pm #1003085Yulia
MemberHy Hessler, I´m going to follow your tips and make some practice to see how it works, but sounds possible :-). I´m new on this and with digital djing are a lot of tricks that i want to learn. Thank you!
February 23, 2012 at 10:52 pm #15536Yulia
Memberthe thing that i find with digital is when you try to beatmatch, the bpm jump between numbers and sometimes don´t reach the number of the song that sound but an approximate… did i make myself clear?
February 24, 2012 at 10:46 am #15577Pär Hessler
ParticipantYulia:
You need to turn off autosync, quantice and you can not look at the BPM numbers at all!
You need to trust your ears and use the pitchslider and pitchbend to get a tight mix.
That can take years to master but that is how it is done, no hokus pokus, just praktice practice and more praktice….
I find it rather easy after +25 years ;-)))
February 24, 2012 at 4:42 pm #15605Yulia
MemberHessler; thanks pal :-). i´m following all your tips. Yesterday I started with the advice that you told and i start to do better. Off course, i need to practice to recognize witch track is behind or forward… that´s the clue that is harder for me but it´s part of the work of learn. i get much appreciate your comments.
February 24, 2012 at 6:33 pm #15617VinnyBlanc
ParticipantYulia, what controller are you using?
February 24, 2012 at 6:55 pm #15624Pär Hessler
ParticipantYulia, post: 15678, member: 1117 wrote: Hessler; thanks pal :). i´m following all your tips. Yesterday I started with the advice that you told and i start to do better. Off course, i need to practice to recognize witch track is behind or forward… that´s the clue that is harder for me but it´s part of the work of learn. i get much appreciate your comments.
Thank you for that reply, it made me glad. Keep on and good luck with your praktice 🙂
February 24, 2012 at 9:34 pm #15635Yulia
MemberHy Vinny. I have a Numark Omni Control and traktor scratch pro
February 24, 2012 at 10:15 pm #15641Jon Hill
Participantyeah, take the sync off, or just use it to get to the correct bpm initially then its down to your ears. also, you might want to get some of the tracks you find most troublesome into ableton (or whatever is best for you) and meter the tune so its locked on time. or, you can search on soundcloud, there are thousands of disco edits on there.
here’s a disco mix i did with traktor… http://www.mixcloud.com/itsjpsource/bedmocast-03-mixed-by-jp-source/
February 26, 2012 at 4:52 am #15674Reason808
ParticipantHey Julia, I’m sure there’s some great tutorials on manual beatmatching but here’s what I’d suggest for a first-timer’s training plan:
1. Start with songs that have a fixed beat-grid first.
– Its hard to manually beat-match, you have to develop an expert ear to hear subtle beat-drift.
– Learn to hear the difference between two ‘fixed’ track’s tempo first
– Yes, this will probably take you away from disco, but there may be some early synth pop that could work.2. Start practicing with two copies of the same “locked” song.
– Throw one off of Zero pitch and try to match the other song to to the tempo.
– Do this ‘blind’ – don’t look at the wave forms, tempo read-outs or even the pitch slider This forces your ears to hear the drift.
– Learn to recognize when a song is beat-matched but in the wrong phrase or slowly falling out of sync over time. Cue them from the same starting point and really, really listen for the drift.
– Try to keep the song going on as long a possible and mix it in useful phrases.3. Then move to practicing beatmatching with two different “locked” songs.
4. When you’re comfortable with 1-3 and feel like you can ‘ride’ the faders manually, try some old-school disco with tempo drift.
– You’ll notice that bands will get excited as they head towards the emotional highs of the song and they’ll be a subtle speeding happening. A good example of this is the intro of the Bee Gees You Should Be Dancing.
– I remember Chic classics had really tight tempoHope this helps. Good luck.
February 28, 2012 at 7:51 am #15836Rattfink
MemberAlso, if you’re able to get your hands on a DAW like Ableton, you can edit the track to have it’s tempo be a little more quantized. I know that you lose a bit of that “live” feel but it’ll beatmatch better than before.
March 2, 2012 at 8:31 pm #16044Yulia
MemberWow , of couse it helps me!! That you very much Reason 808, i´m going to follow those tips also to keep practicing and reach a good training… Maybe later I get into the ableton to improve the djing…..(thanks rattfink)
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