Advice Please – Novation Twitch or ???
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October 26, 2012 at 9:01 pm #30857
nick greek
Memberthink about american audio vms 4 , however it is a more traditional setup
October 27, 2012 at 9:08 am #30870rfb
MemberGet Twitch for your djing, set up touch osc on your iPad to control Ableton and then you can decide later on, whether you also need a launchpad or if you want to swap the Twitch for sth with more inputs as you mentionedfor your turntables etc.
October 27, 2012 at 4:44 pm #30877B-H-Y
MemberHi Markkloud
I just bought a Twitch as a second controller. I use different controllers for different styles and functions. I’ll use it as a DJ controller and like you, with Ableton and a MacBook Pro. When it arrived got it unpacked and everything ready it was faulty (outputs were dead). I’m sure this is just a one-off. Novation technical support are really helpful. Despite this, I’m willing to wait a week for a replacement. The reason for this, what the Twitch can do and how easy it is to use. It’s very intuitive and works seamlessly with the Serato Itch. The slicer function is incredible and allows remixing on the fly. So if you’re playing with a drummer, the possibilities are endless. The only thing I’d say is that if you’re going to use Ableton Live, the Push will be released next year. It’s more expensive and only comes with Live 9 Intro. For the same price as the Push, you could buy a Twitch and also a Akai APC 20 at present. Two great pieces of kit. Just a few ideas for you.
DerekOctober 28, 2012 at 10:33 am #30907Bunyip
MemberHi there,
I have had my Twitch for a few months now. I come from a vinyl and CDJ spinning background, so was not too sure how well I would adapt to the control strip. I actually really like my Twitch. I got used to the strip very quickly (I still would probably prefer a jog wheel, but the strip works very well). I also like the rotary knobs for pitch control. And the 8 pads are great fun to play with. I’ve mapped mine to work with Algoriddim’s djay, which it does pretty well. About the only negative I can think of is that sometimes I turn Deck B’s pitch control knob instead of the library browse knob.
All in all though, it’s small, light, offering a lot of flexibility and fun to use.
I got mine second hand off eBay, as I thought if I didn’t like it I could sell it without losing much money. Maybe look at that as an option if you’re still not sure.October 28, 2012 at 11:58 am #30910B-H-Y
MemberHi Bunyip. That’s a good idea for anyone not sure about a Twitch buying a second hand one. As you say someone doesn’t like it, move it on. I liked the control strip and rotary knobs. As for the pads, you can really do some amazing thing with the slicer. Throw two tracks in and then start mixing them on the fly. Mind you, make sure you’re beatgridding is spot on.
I’d say for the beginner, the Twitch is a so easy and intuitive to use and for the money, a bargain. With the added bonus of the free upgrade to Serato’s new software which is worth about £150 or $199 then you could say the Twitch is costing about £140-150. It’s interesting you mapped it to Djay, which is an underrated piece of software.For the money, it’s better than say something like the overrated Virtual DJ LE which ships with too many controllers. For a newcomer to DJing, Djay has everything they need and I’d recommend it.
November 2, 2012 at 4:16 pm #31270Bunyip
MemberYeah I love the Twitch, and it plays well with djay. Except that for some reason the VU meters on the Twitch don’t work with djay, and you don’t get the nice flowing LED effect on the control strip. But as I said, Ive gotten really used to rotaries for pitch control. If only it worked as a stand alone mixer as well, I’d be in heaven, as I run a single turntable as part of my setup. Which is why I have recently purchased a VCi-380 to allow that.
November 2, 2012 at 10:07 pm #31280B-H-Y
MemberHi Bunyip. i’ve been enjoying the Twitch since I got it and really getting into what it can do. At the start it’s strange having rotaries for pitch control, but I actually prefer it now. I’ve just got to be careful not to mix up the browse rotary. It’s interesting you’ve got it mapped to Djay as I’ve a copy. I used it with my other controller the Reloop Digital IE 2, which runs with Traktor 2.5. It’s a really underrated piece of software and perfect for anyone moving from vinyl or CDJs. I agree it would be great if it worked as a standalone mixer, as I’m thinking of adding a turntable as much of the music I like never made it onto CD, never mind MP3. I can’t wait for the Serato software to be available for the Twitch. I read Phil’s review and I’m excited about it. I checked out your FB page-great setup.
November 4, 2012 at 11:40 am #31332Bunyip
MemberCheers B-H-Y.
If you’re thinking about adding a turntable to your setup, I can recommend the VCI-380. I just got one. Works as a stand alone mixer and coming from the Twitch, is a very familiar layout. Although has been very tough to map to djay, so Infact has spurred me to finally get my head around Serato Itch. Been having a great time this weekend on it.
Sorry markloud, just realised we’ve hijacked your thread!November 5, 2012 at 4:01 pm #31386B-H-Y
MemberHi Bunnyip, I had a look at the VCI-380 and will look at turntables too. Maybe a Vestax or Stanton. I’ve really been enjoying exploring what the Twitch can do. Every time I use it, I discover something new. It’s the best piece of equipment I’ve bought in ages. Once the new version of Serato comes out for Twitch, it’ll be even better. By then, any teething problems will be ironed out in the software. There’s a Serato Itch group on Facebook if you’re interested and one for Twitch. Im a member of both and and can send you a link.
November 5, 2012 at 5:34 pm #31391Bunyip
MemberSure, shoot me the links.
Thanks!November 5, 2012 at 6:24 pm #31393B-H-Y
MemberHi Bunyip, Here are the links: https://www.facebook.com/groups/39294238190/ is the Serato Itch group and the Novation Twitch Club is https://www.facebook.com/twitch.controller?fref=ts hope they’re helpful. Hope they help you.
January 9, 2013 at 2:15 pm #34737markkloud
MemberHey guys .. thanks for all the input, shortly after i posted this I ended up getting the Launchpad for cheap and the Twitch off of ebay for a decent price. It was brand new, open box and never registered. So when i got it, it was working great, no issues at all. And I adjusted to it quick, and really enjoyed using it .. UNTIL about a month after receiving it, the unit stopped powering up when plugged into the computer. I have tried other USB cables, and other computers .. it does not power up at all. This all happened on Christmas Eve and I had a fairly large gig the next night – which would have been my first time using it out. Needless to say I was screwed, given it being a holiday and 24 hrs till the gig. I contacted customer support the night it stopped working, obviously without a real response till 1/2/13. I was told to try a couple things out to see if would help .. nothing helped. So I provided more info that they had asked for if those solutions did not help. It has now been another week with no response or update on what I should do with the Twitch. In my last response to Customer Support I asked kindly to be given some type of timeframe for resolution to the problem. My next gig is the 18th, and a have a few more lined up over the next 3 months. I need to know if I should be finding a new solution to my setup, cancel gigs, rent equipment.
I am extremely disappointed in the unit .. although until it stopped working it was great and fun to use. I would like to continue using the Twitch but if their customer support is unresponsive than I can not invest, support a company like this. I’m I being impatient in this situation? Has anyone else had issues with the Twitch powering up and/or experience dealing with Novation customer support? If so what is the turn around time for a unit being sent in for repairs? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
January 14, 2013 at 10:53 am #35001Bunyip
MemberSorry to hear that mark – I guess it’s just one of those rare and random things which happens to gear now and then. But what a bummer that happened so close to the gig, especially when you were looking forward to using it. I can’t really answer your question about repair times, but hope it gets sorted with Novation and you stick with it. I fired mine up for a gig over Christmas – havn’t used it much since I got my VCI-380 – and had a blast with it. Let us know how you go.
Cheers.
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