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  • #14196
    Warziders
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    That is a very good question; I believe this could have a significant impact on DJing. It would limit how a lot of us use content for sure and force us into using either GNU licensed content or paying a great deal for “licenses” or the rights to play certain content. More or less, it comes down to a money game… That which the governments want, the governments take.

    #14197

    yah! Well, It is actually all cool to buy legal music over the internet. Since music is a DJ bullets right? But, Do we have to ask for licenses to play these legally bought tunes?

    #1002860
    Warziders
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    According to lawdit.co.uk, ehow.com, and several other more reputable sites; we have to pay for even the slightest snippet used. This is said for UK as well as US. One loop hole is to use tracks from artists who release them under a GNU type licence, or a copyleft agreement.

    #1002924
    softcore
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    I havent searched the laws internationally but its not so messy as you guys describe……The whole meaning of DJing is that when you DJ, artists DO get paid…How? Well at least here in Greece, every place that puts music, from clubs to small cafe’s pay a mothly fee to an organisation where artists are registered which is supposed to collect money from these places and give back the money to the artists according to how many times their tunes were played – at least in theory.

    In simple words, you don’t need copyrights to DJ – but the place that makes money out of said played music has to pay fees that somehow theoritically go back to the copyright holders. If you needed copyrights to play other people’s music, then the radio is 99% illegal.

    #1002933
    Warziders
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    In the US, there is no “blanket” policy for DJing. We are required to either produce our own material or to purchase/obtain rights to play the music of others. If we fail to do so, it can result in some messy results and legal issues.
    ” (Title 17 U.S. Code) provides for fines, imprisonment, and seizure of any or all equipment used in the production of pirated recordings. Civil law allows the copyright holders to sue for damages for infringement.”

    The law can be found and read here:
    [COLOR=#00ffff][COLOR=#ff0000]http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/[/COLOR] [/COLOR]

    “Copyright Issues and Disc Jockeys.” [SIZE=16px][FONT=Times New Roman]Proformance Special Events Home Page. Web. 09 Feb. 2012. <“>http://proformancedj.com/copyright.htm&gt;.[/FONT][/SIZE]

    #14590
    softcore
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    Then according to what you say, USA DJs are ALREADY all of them illegal! Something just doesnt fit in what you say!

    Are you sure there is no “middle man” company that obtains the rights on behalf of the DJs by asking for fees from the venues?

    And according to what you say, ALL USA radio stations are illegal, you are missing something!

    (similar to what I described that happens in Greece)

    #14605
    Warziders
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    Not missing a thing, read the law site i posted, there is a reason i produce my own stuff.

    #14609
    softcore
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    Dude you keep missing my point, don’t ya?

    For one, ACTA has nothing to do with DJs playing other people’s music, for two the law says clearly you cant reproduce any copyrighted music if you dont have a license from the copyright holder, and there are about 57849794579475 million ways to have a license to play copyrighted material and for 3 if thats the reason you produce music, I think you ‘ve picked the wrong one!

    And again, Im asking ya, are all USA DJS and radio and TV stations illegal? Is that what you are telling me? Or are you telling me that you have never listened to a tune made by someone played on radio by someone else?

    Also there is a huge difference between playing others’ music as a DJ and producing a piece of music using copyrighted material if thats what you mean. The ways to obtain rights differ a LOT in these two cases.

    #14612
    Warziders
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    What I am saying is that radio and tv here in the states obtain the rights to use said material, djs in the states have to use the same proper channels or face either jail or fines. It is outlined clearly in the law that if we use even a small portion we face the risk of losing our equipment, facing jail time, or a very hefty fine. My full set of reasons to produce music is on a larger scale, this is just the straw that pushed me to doing it sooner.

    #15136

    Does this mean, say.. You are gonna fly to the US to play for a big event. You need to pay for licenses to play all tracks you play? So, you pay for the music or tracks you buy via beatport or some online track/record store THEN PAY FOR LICENSE just to play it? This my friend is highway robbery for DJs

    #15139
    Warziders
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    The easiest way around this is to register with the four leading companies that deal in music licensing:
    ASCAP, BMI, SESAC AND SoundExchange. You can also find a reputable firm that will do the work for you. The only way around this is, again, play your own 100% original work. There are some out there that say that the venue you play at is the only ones that need to license, but in all honesty, a lot of places prefer the DJ to be licensed or possess the rights to the tunes being played. It’s not really hard to register with the companies, and if you do it right they will make sure the royalties are payed through their subscription costs.

    #15141

    ah.. as of now, ill wait for it to be totally in stone. Let us hope it wont be.. For the Sake of Djs around the world

    #1003037
    Warziders
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    I agree, these new laws are unreasonable and potentially harmful to djs.

    #15180

    The thing is with this, incases the club won’t be the one to pay for licenses, DJs then would need to get a license to play each and every song they have which would amount to thousands of songs. Aside from the price we pay to legally buy tunes.

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