A quick hello from me, and hopefully some advice from all of you =)
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December 30, 2011 at 9:05 am #12105
Kevin Williams
ParticipantBuy the digital tips dj course. It will help take the mystery and guess work out of djing. It’s much easier to watch and listen than someone try to explain in words.
December 30, 2011 at 9:30 am #12106SECTION25
MemberHi there, thanks for your response. I have just noticed this course, it looks good.
Does it cover the questions I am asking though? And does it deal with several different types of music?
December 30, 2011 at 9:34 am #12107Pär Hessler
ParticipantWhat you need is some basic knowlage about music build.
If not all at least most dance music is built in 4/4beats.
Now you say you count by snaredrum and I am sorry but that is wrong!
You can listen for the snare but you have to start the mix like this:
The beat 4/4 starts at 1 wich most of the cases is a bass drum then 2 is a snaredrum 2 bass 4 snare.
So you need to find the 1s……
Then 4/4 is a bar and music is built on 4 much common 8 bars.
After 8 bars there usualy is some change in the music.
1234 2234 3234 4234 5234 6234 7234 8234 Here is where it is a good place to mix in the next song.
In the beginning there is no way arund it, you will have to concentrate and cout.
But you must be able to find out where the 1 of the beat is because very often a song does not start on 1.
Look around on the internet there is much to be found about music and how it is built…………..
For me after playing drums for 20+ yeras and Dj ing for about 30 I can talk to people at the same time that I drop a mix in
the right place and in sync without syncbutton.
just to let you know there is no way around it if you want to be a better DJ there is just practice practice and practice to chose from!
Also in EDM most DJs uses filter or EQ to turn off the bass on one of the tracks in the mix.
That way it sounds smoother in the transition but it is much harder for you to hear if it is in sync……
Experiment with that for a while and you will see that you get better every day.Good luck!
December 30, 2011 at 9:39 am #12108MemberDJ Hessler – thanks very much for your post! Does the example you give, work more with trance or house?
When I gave the dubstep example, I was talking about stuff like this
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and this
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With this type of music, I don’t know how you could count the bass, since there is just tons of it?
December 30, 2011 at 9:57 am #12110ParticipantMy example goes for any music that is in 4/4 beat.
You should not count the bass just the beat that goes 1234 in all music.
Often bassdrum and snaredrum but not always and in that cases you will have to
imagine a bassdrum on the count of 1 and 3 and a snaredrum on 2 and 4….You might find it a bit easier to start with House/Trance than D&B/Dubstep though!
December 30, 2011 at 9:59 am #12111ParticipantBTW those two tracks is really not the easiest to start with IMO
Try some mainstream dance house music with lyrics on to start with….December 30, 2011 at 10:23 am #12113DJ Hane K
ParticipantHiya!
Counting beats and bars is one of the very foundations on which DJing (and, indeed, playing any instrument at all, with the possible exception of the didgeridoo) is built on. So you really need to learn that. Fortunately there’s tons of tutorials on youtube. For instance, just type in ‘counting beats dj’ and start viewing away!
Here’s one to get you off to a good start:
[media=youtube]BdNmogFVJTo[/media]And here’s one about counting beats and mixing dubstep:
[media=youtube]shfCZZ-6jCw[/media]Best of luck, I personally think it’s pretty admirable that you’re taking the oldskool route and learning with vinyl first – most people don’t have the patience any more, since everything is just so much more difficult on vinyl than on digital gear (ok, just my personal opinion, that last one).
Cheers!
December 30, 2011 at 10:43 am #12114MemberThanks guys for all your advice!
I wasn’t expecting I’d get such a good response.
Firstly, thank you DJ Hessler for your advice – do you have a couple of suggestions for tracks that are house? I tried with trance but the tracks are so long, and since they are played in their entirety I find it a lot harder to get the beats matched and the track lined up (hence the reason for this post). If you have a couple you can suggest I will go pick them up on beatport or something like that and have a go right now (I am playing with my decks as I speak)
DJ Hane K – thank you for your videos. Ellaskins on youtube makes some great videos.
In regards to the old school route, well to me there’s just something cool about watching records turn, putting your hands on the record, and playing it. I know I am never going to get super technical with them, but in those cases when I do want to, I’d use a controller, or CDJs (which I will learn after learning the basics on turntables)
For me, if I was going to play an old school drum and bass set, or something like that, I’d want to use turntables and vinyl. If I was going to play some crazy house with loads of cue point messing about, obviously I’m going to want something that’s going to allow that.
I love all aspects of DJing!
December 30, 2011 at 12:42 pm #12117ParticipantWell.
About anything from the Swedish dance chart that has about the same BPM (shown in list)
would be a good starter IMOhttp://www.deejaypromo.com/charts.asp
And if you “love all aspects of DJing” I am sure you will soon get the hang of it.
If you have q’s, this forum is a good place to ask them so keep on asking if anything is not claer 🙂
January 4, 2012 at 5:06 am #12315MemberThank you all for your advice, I will check out the website and play with some tracks this week =)
happy new year!
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