4-Channel Audio Mixer advice needed
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May 29, 2015 at 6:00 pm #2203201
bob6397
ParticipantWhat are you trying to achieve with said mixer? Your mixtrack quad is already a mixer in itself – are you trying to add more stereo inputs? Or more Mic inputs?
Specifics would help.. 🙂
June 1, 2015 at 7:51 pm #2204261DJ NShyap
ParticipantI would like to add my bass guitar to the audio board…or if i can I would directly input my microphone there in the board…
In our Music band we used to use one to plug Guitars, Bass, MIcrophone, Keynoard etc to one board which has equalizer like “Yamaha MG10”.
In a DJ program I saw people using a 5 channel Audio Board or Behringer next to the DJ machine…
I want to know will it be important or I might only require it only if I have to play guitar along with DJing…
Thank you!
June 2, 2015 at 2:13 am #2204311bob6397
ParticipantI don’t think I have seen someone play guitar and DJ simultaneously before but if that’s what you wanna do, go for it.
I use a mixer every time I DJ (I don’t use a controller and just have a soundcard) – I use a Yamaha MG10 (v3).
What I would recommend in these circumstances would be a small PA mixer – ideally one with a mic input, a guitar input and a stereo input (from the controller).
Have you seen the Yamaha AG10? Strikes me that it could be perfect for you – although you wouldn’t need the onboard soundcard – Is your B Gtr active or passive? If it is passive do you use a DI box or do you want that built into a mixer? That’ll decide what kind of specific features you want.
If it is active, any mixer that has a line input will be able to connect to it. If it is passive then you either need a DI box or a mixer which supports Guitar (known as Instrument) level inputs. The Yamaha AG series supports this.
Other than that, pick a mixer from a reputable brand. The Yamaha MG series have the advantage of XLR outputs – useful if you are running active speakers but possibly a little unnecessary if you have passive speakers with the amp next to the mixer.. Depends on your setup.
I would consider anything (at the budget end) by Mackie/Yamaha/Allen and Heath (at a push – they are expensive in comparison…)
bob6397
June 2, 2015 at 7:24 am #2204381DJ Vintage
ModeratorYep, lots of smaller budget mixers around from the brands mentioned. Personally I think the 3rd generation Yamaha’s are nicest (and I am a Mackie fan, so there! LOL). In your case the MG06 (or the FX version if you want extra FX on your mixer) is plenty. It has two mic/line inputs (so mic and guitar) and two stereo channels, one for your controller and a second one to hook up iDevice for backup. And it is really compact!
June 2, 2015 at 3:47 pm #2204621DJ NShyap
ParticipantThank you so so much DJ Bob 6397 and DJ Vintage 🙂
My Bass is a Ibanez Bass with an Active Pick up with replaceable battery inside however my Acquostic Guitar has an option(inbuilt pickup) to put in a cable for output.
The issue is with my budget as of now as I dint even get a single program.. 🙂 So will keep the idea of buying a mixer with good effect on hold for the moment and would go with a simple PA mixer at the moment, if it is required to perform?? 🙂
Thank you very much for your advice… 🙂
God Bless…
June 2, 2015 at 9:33 pm #2204991DJ Vintage
ModeratorWell, you can just hook your Mixtrack Quad straight into any PA. And doesn’t it have a mic input as well? Not sure.
If you get a (PA) mixer (with or without FX), you’ll still need a DI-box to hook up your bass to the mixer, so extra cost.
June 2, 2015 at 10:16 pm #2205031bob6397
ParticipantSlight correction Vintage.. The Bass is active and therefore outputs at line level, which means that you can plug it straight into the mixer. The Acoustic is passive, so that would either need a DI box or a mixer with one built in (Yamaha AG series?)…
Effects are useful but only if you have a sound engineer to operate them live – it is near impossible to perform and mix yourself live and sound decent. When I mix for people, I use a (pair of for bigger concerts) Yamaha MG166CX console – and I will use the built in reverb effects etc. just to add some more into the mix – adding reverb to vocals transforms them when applied right..
BUT it is not necessary or even expected from a musician performing on their own.. So I wouldn’t bother in this case.. 🙂
bob6397
June 3, 2015 at 12:23 am #2205051DJ NShyap
Participanti agree to all your points…For the moment I would just focus on my Mixtrack Quad and Maxbook Air….and will keep my Passion for Bass at Home for d good.. 🙂 yes d Mixtrack has Microphone n mike gain option…
But there is no Gain in d Controller…so will i face any issues while mixing songs….??Thank you!!
June 3, 2015 at 1:26 am #2205071bob6397
ParticipantDo you mean that you don’t have gain control for the tracks from your Mac or that you don’t have gain control for the mic channel?
If you don’t have it for the tracks, you should be alright (though it isn’t ideal) – the autogain in your DJ software should take care of the gain for you and your track prep should sport any errors it may have (VDJ notably sturggles with older music which isn’t mastered in the same way that music nowadays is.. It applies far too much gain to them (partly also due to the emphasis in the mix – tracks nowadays also have more bass than older tracks..)
If you haven’t got it on the mic, check again that the control isn’t hidden on the back of the controller or somewhere (As this would be odd) but, again, you should be fine..
bob6397
June 3, 2015 at 10:21 am #2205221DJ NShyap
Participanthi Bob6397, i have gain for my mike ut not for the tracks in my Controller…so was thinking if that ld be a problem…Howeverin VDJ there are 4 respective gains 🙂
June 3, 2015 at 1:49 pm #2205461DJ Vintage
ModeratorBuy Platinum Notes (or get one of the free options, although I have to say I never really liked those) and run your tracks through it. It will automatically gain all your tracks the same. You can easily do without the gain knobs then. Also you can use the autogain feature in your DJ software.
Whatever way you do it, the gain/trim on a mixer will never be avaible for track gaining if you are using software and a controller.
June 3, 2015 at 2:51 pm #2205651DJ NShyap
ParticipantOh k Thank you so much… 🙂
However let me confirm…Are you saying that if I do not have a Gain control knob in my DJ Controller equipment, which is Numark Mixtrack Quad in my case, even an external mixer such as PA mixer with Gain control would not help??
Please advise..
June 3, 2015 at 3:58 pm #2205711Quicknight
ParticipantYes that’s right. If you don’t have a gain control on your controller, no amount of external audio equipment will help. You will just add another volume control to your setup.
Just as a sidenote: If your bass guitar is active, you can plug it in to the mic input of your controller. Only problem in the Numark is that the mic input cuts everything below 500Hz..so your bass won’t be effective. I use a keyboard with it and it works fine.
June 3, 2015 at 4:53 pm #2205831DJ NShyap
ParticipantOh thats sounds great…let me leave alone the bass then
Could you please advise….While changing a track from Song A to Song B,….the volume reduces and it sounds as though the Sound has reduced once we completely off the Track A to play Track B…so how to get rid of that or is that natural…for a Controller Mixer…
June 3, 2015 at 6:30 pm #2205851Quicknight
ParticipantA tip if you don’t have gain controls: Keep your channel faders at about 3/4th of the way only…that way if a track ts too quiet, you’ll be able to compensate for it.
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