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  • #1002372
    Dayvue
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    subtractive effects – ones that take away sound, like eq’s and high/low pass filters are the best with which to start. Phaser, Flanger (kind of), high/low filters, and wet/dry are examples of this.

    additive effects – effects that add sound/chop up the original song take much more practice to execute live. This includes the infamous beatmasher2, echo, loop rolls, and cue point juggling. These are much harder to use well.

    And on another note, you’re not going to get very good at beatmatching if all your songs are at 128 bpm… I may have misunderstood the OP, but you need songs of different bpm to learn beatmatching.

    #11282

    I’m curious about this as well, where would somebody go to learn how to use effects properly anyway? I wasn’t able to find anything on youtube.

    And for the beat matching thing I could see using all the same bpms to start off helping with the timing issues. get that down first then start tempo matching.

    #11283
    Pär Hessler
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    I would say:
    Skip the effects if you are a beginner!
    Try to learn your music and try to learn how to beatmatch first.
    After that learn different technics to blend the music.
    And after that you can try to learn to mix by key.

    After e few years if you manage to learn all of the above you can add effects.
    But effects should be kept to a minimum otherwise it will do more harm than adding something for the ordience.

    I started DJing approx 1980 and if I play music for 4 hours I add effects 4-5 times in a total of 1-2minutes!
    This is my personal point of view and all might not aprove so take it as it is….

    #11287
    VinnyBlanc
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    Dayvue, post: 11277 wrote:
    And on another note, you’re not going to get very good at beatmatching if all your songs are at 128 bpm… I may have misunderstood the OP, but you need songs of different bpm to learn beatmatching.

    Exactly. If all your 10 songs are 128bmp the beatmatching has already been done for you. At this point you would be working on phasing and phrase matching.

    #11288
    IznremiX
    Participant

    DJ Hessler, post: 11280 wrote: I would say:
    Skip the effects if you are a beginner!
    Try to learn your music and try to learn how to beatmatch first.
    After that learn different technics to blend the music.
    And after that you can try to learn to mix by key.

    After e few years if you manage to learn all of the above you can add effects.
    But effects should be kept to a minimum otherwise it will do more harm than adding something for the ordience.

    I started DJing approx 1980 and if I play music for 4 hours I add effects 4-5 times in a total of 1-2minutes!
    This is my personal point of view and all might not aprove so take it as it is….

    This!

    I think one thing a lot of beginners don’t realize is, you can do cooler and more technical stuff with your mixer and decks than you can with effects (chopping, blends, etc.). learn to use those effectively first! also one thing you might notice, especially when you start playing out, is that using effects too much doesn’t sound good.

    #11291
    mailman
    Member

    Thanks for the tips everyone, in regards to the bpm’s of my songs i think its more an issue of just trying to time two songs together so maybe beatmatching isn’t the right word to use in this context…pretty much i just want to be able to bring a song in without the awful clip-clop noise of miss timed beats.

    If you think that effects isn’t the right path to head down what can you recommend as something to spice things up a bit, i understand that the most important thing is song selection and you shouldn’t try to over do it but for just bedroom djing i wouldn’t mind trying a few things as my tracks play…any ideas?

    #11323
    Dayvue
    Member

    Instead of effects, I would recommend playing with the crossfader to do some cutting and playing around with the different beats you can cut in every 4th beat, or something similar. If you throw in learning some basic scratching and cutting, you can give your sets a pretty personalized feel. Also, you can cue point juggle on one deck while letting the track play on the other deck (in moderation, of course).

    And as for preventing train wreck mixes, drop new songs in on the downbeat. If they still sound clip-cloppy, nudge the side of the jogwheel in one direction until your tracks are aligned (in your headphones), and then move over the crossfader.

    #11329
    FileSpnr
    Member

    beatmasher, beatslice, slicer, etc. beat based FX offer less chance to distort the sound to something that is unacceptable.

    #11350
    softcore
    Member

    filtering and delays….

    #1002379
    Hee Won Jung
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    Dayvue, post: 11320 wrote: If you throw in learning some basic scratching and cutting, you can give your sets a pretty personalized feel.

    I think this is the incorrect advice for an EDM Dj…scratching is an advanced technique that should really be learned on a decent controller…not all controllers are able to scratch, and scratching is more meant for Hip Hop DJs

    As an EDM DJ its more about effects and smooth transitions, loops, cue points etc.

    I was reading this article yesterday and so i thought i would do a small 40 min mix basic transitions and going a little nuts on the effects. This by no means is how i do my sets but i thought it would give a good idea of how effects are used.
    The primary effects used are: Flanger Flux, Ladder Filter (not effect filter but filter on deck can be changed from Xone or Ladder, I prefer Ladder as there is more resonance), Beatmasher, Gater, Filter 92 LFO, Iceverb, Reverb, Freeze Delay.
    I tried to use as many different effects so the OP can get an idea of how they can be used in conjunction with each other and how different effects work with different tunes.

    http://www.mixcloud.com/hee-won-jung/december10set/#access_token=AAAAAC45K3s4BAAJkHsubJrhS5vMFyRUV295C7WUfXh9IqGWKZC9fmuTGZBShNA2IAYCg5PLrms4ZBYPRwG10ZBse968dZAoEZD&expires_in=0

    #11360
    Hee Won Jung
    Participant

    Dayvue, post: 11320 wrote: And as for preventing train wreck mixes, drop new songs in on the downbeat. If they still sound clip-cloppy, nudge the side of the jogwheel in one direction until your tracks are aligned (in your headphones), and then move over the crossfader.

    As well IMO its better to use the Volume faders to transition into a new track oppose to the crossfader.

    The Volume Fader has a lot mor accuracy than the Crossfader, and often has more resistance than the crossfader enabling to set exactly how quick/volume of the transition you are making. Crossfaders are better for chopping up the song from one to the other if you are doing mashups etc. or as we all know for Scratching

    #11375
    U31
    Member

    In order of preference;
    Effect1 : None
    Effect2: None
    Effect3: None
    Efect4: None

    HTH

    #11386
    eros
    Member

    I have to say I’m also of the thought that less is more when it comes to effects, especially when starting out. I’ve seen some songs just get absolutely massacred in clubs and it just sounds terrible…producers spend a lot of time getting their tracks right and usually they sound better if left alone or very minimal effects used.

    I think the focus should be on blending and making your own mash-ups to begin with because you learn far more that way and it teaches you to beat match , key & tempo match as well. Although I must admit that when starting out with Traktor and being confronted with 30+ effects its tempting to go crazy but just have fun with it and record your mixes and play them back…your ears will tell you what works.

    Please note this is just my humble opinion as a predominantly trance DJ..other DJ’s from other genres may feel differently about this and I totally respect that…

    #11396
    U31
    Member

    ^^^^ He’s right, but i play Progressive house which aint a million miles away from Trance in terms of composition…
    Id much rather let the choon do the talking… for me my bit of “Remixing” or stamping my own authority on a track selection is during the transition blend from one track to another, and sometimes thats when i really go wild..
    about the onnly effects id consider using… sparingly too at that, are filters, but that could be considered mixing on the eq’s… a big part of transition mixing anyway, then next phasing, then right down there echo and reverb..

    You’d probably hate this, but just for an example give it a listen and if truly offends your ears just fastforward to about 27.15 in – Evolution-Jaywalkin’… its timestamped and the track will highlight when you get to it..
    http://www.mixcloud.com/U31/sexy-maz-mix-redux-the-directors-cut/
    Jaywalking – Is there anybody out there & Control are all mixed together for that entire 12 or so minute section, B line from one, mids from another, hi hats from the 3rd track and i’m constantly switching them around during the entire session- swap out the b line from the other track as i bring in the mids and synths from the next..
    Its about as in your face as i get

    #11465
    Phil Morse
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