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  • #10043
    softcore
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    Just a thing you should know before you go on with reason: its the only music-making program of today that doesnt support VST instruments and effects. For this reason I would never suggest it – I believe not having VSTs is a big loss of many many many wonderful virtual devices, and some of them offered for free.

    #10315
    eros
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    Thanks for that softcore. Sorry for late reply, I’ve been trying to do a bit more background reading on what you said. I didn’t realise about the non support of VST so thank you for that. Although doesn’t Reason come with its own instruments and effects already ? Would it be ok to use Reason if I were just re-mixing as opposed to producing from scratch ? Which program would you recommend ?

    #10335
    Pär Hessler
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    I would recommend Ableton Live for remixing.
    Reason is more of a production from scratch program IMO.
    Ableton Live is as I know it the most common tool for DJs who does mach ups and remixes….

    Here is a 30day free trial of that:

    http://www.ableton.com/downloads

    //DJ Hessler

    #10342
    mr_john
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    I use both. I love each for entirely different reasons though.
    Ableton is probably your best bet for just remixing/mashing.
    Reason is more for creating synths, beats, loops, etc.

    Strangely enough, I think reason is easier to edit with. While ableton is easier to create sounds with. weird right? But given the choice between the two, I’d go with ableton.

    #10384
    eros
    Member

    Thanks for all that info guys. Any recommendations on how to get started learning Ableton ?

    #10387
    Pär Hessler
    Participant

    eros, post: 10380 wrote: Thanks for all that info guys. Any recommendations on how to get started learning Ableton ?

    Yes, the hard way like I did it.
    By reading the manuals:

    http://www.ableton.com/pages/downloads/manuals

    #10415
    eros
    Member

    Lol !! Thanks Hessler .. and thanks for the link, I’d better get reading then !

    Also do you know of any instructional videos that are useful ?

    #10443
    softcore
    Member

    Hello! My turn for saying sorry for late reply! 😉

    Its true that Reason comes with its own set of effects and instruments (as all other programs discussed here, are) but the difference is that VST support ensures nearly unlimited expansion of your tools with a relatively low cost.
    Another thing one should take under consideration is the fact that there are VST effects out there (equalizers, compressors, etc etc) that have the price of the whole Reason program alone – you can imagine the attention beeing given to the sound quality of said plug ins. Reason and all its instruments/audio effects, superb as they might be, are all made from the same team of programmers. With VSTs, you can have your favourite Synthesizer manufacturer, and a different favourite EQ manufacturer and so on and so on.
    Before I get misunderstood, of course I do not mean that you cannot make absolutely brilliant music with Reason – in fact with ANY of today’s programs. It all comes to down to personal choices and what suits you best – on that scope, VST support is more ensuring that you will find those instruments/audio effects that suit YOU best – regardless of the program you add them to.

    As already mentioned, Ableton Live is the one to look for, if you want to create mash-ups and remixes. This is because it allows easy manipulation of audio files. Apart from Ableton Live also FL Studio is a great program for production and favourite amongst beginners (a lot of guys swear by it).
    If you want to have a glimpse of what the rest of the major “players” are these must be:
    Pro Tools
    Cubase
    Logic
    Sonar
    Samplitude

    If you google them and find their manufacturer websites you will notice from the screen pictures that they share a lot of common characteristics in their UI – which expands to their way of working, with Ableton Live and FL Studio being a bit different. This is the thing that makes then more appealing to beginners but also a thing to cosnider if you want to go pro: there must be a reason all the rest major DAWs use the timeline-based UI.

    Strictly personally, Id advise anyone who wants to dabble with production to consider one of the following DAWs (in the order they appear):
    Sonar
    Cubase
    Ableton Live

    As far instructional videos go, especially for Ableton Live a search in Youtube will reveal to you a lot of videos.

    PS: as for learning production, whatever the program, its absolutely true what has already been mentioned – there is no easy way. Read manuals and definitely search for basic terminology on the net for synthesizers and audio effects so that you will be able to comprehend what all those knobs, sliders and buttons do on these devices.

    #1002228
    mr_john
    Member

    I never read the manual. Not disciplined enough haha trial and error and watching some things on youtube is basically what I did.. Ableton comes with tutorials that walk you through a few lessons and tell you what everything is. Those are your foundation. Very useful since the first time you open that program you feel a bit overwhelmed. Whenever I get stuck or forget how to do something I just youtube/google it.

    Closest thing to a manual I read was the dance music manual.

    #10497
    eros
    Member

    @softcore … just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to post that response and all the information softcore…you have saved me a lot of time and I really appreciate it.

    mr_john..I’m a bit like you never been a read the manual kinda guy but I think this time I’m going to have to !!

    #10527
    Pär Hessler
    Participant

    eros, post: 10411 wrote: Lol !! Thanks Hessler .. and thanks for the link, I’d better get reading then !

    Also do you know of any instructional videos that are useful ?

    There are some videos on Abletons site.

    http://www.ableton.com/getting-started

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