My first DNB mashup-video: Kelis ft. Camo & Krooked – Far Out There
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November 14, 2011 at 12:12 am #9791
SmiTTTen
ParticipantI haven’t listed to this yet but straight out of the gate I hate the styling. I appreciate you might be using something that’s been put together by someone else but their taste is way off point. Let the music do your talking…
November 14, 2011 at 12:21 am #9792Karl Blindheim
ParticipantUmmm… what?! I seriously have no clue as to what you’re talking about. Who’s taste? I’ve made all the PR-material myself, if that’s what you’re referring to. Up to personal taste, as always. But if I may – I will never let only the music do the talking. DJ’ing to me is just as much a visual experience as an auditory. And since I work in advertising and public relations, I find interactive communication pretty interesting, I spend a lot of time having fun doing different promotion-efforts. This is not meant to boast at all but the “styling” of my mixes has played a huge part in me getting front-page features on Noiseporn, Electronic Battle-Weapons, Digitally Imported etc. Sorry if I sound a bit douchey, I was just taken by surprise to find a DJ not seeming too keen on any visual marketing. Or are you referring to something else as “styling”? The thing I find hard to understand is that you prefer to let the music do the talking when in fact the topic is a music video. And damn, the original is a stylish classic.
November 14, 2011 at 1:08 am #9794SmiTTTen
ParticipantSorry if I have offended you. Some tihngs to keep in mind though. Firstly, if you put something “out there” you have to be prepared to take the feedback, good and bad. Your reply was very defensive but I have been in the same position myself. My comment about it not necessarily being your own work is based on my (perhaps incorrect) assumption that you weren’t the photographer on the Kelis shoot or the people behind her original marketing campaign. On the subject of personal taste – you are completely correct – yes this is my personal, unfortunately personal taste is the currency in this business. The look you put together here is somewhat polarizing which isn’t what you want. People who have been in this game for a good while have seen the “sex sells” mantra beaten to death for 20 years. It’s not that we are prudes, just it’s so entirely unoriginal and potentially impacts your message negatively with a good part of your market. This “look” acted as a barrier, rather than a driver for me to check out your work. Remember, you are competing with thousands of other people touting their stuff , so much so, that you need something pretty special to stand out – this IMO does not. As for your resume, I got to “Noiseporn” and began to understand… I genuinely admire you for putting effort into packaging this, it just didn’t work for me and seeing as you are posting it this on a DJ forum, I figured you were looking for honest opinion. I am not sure it would be helpful for anyone to LIKE this all day long just to make you feel good.
Do what you do and believe in yourself, just take it on the chin when someone provides you feedback. I apologize again for the way in which I said what I did. Good luck!
November 14, 2011 at 1:19 am #1002134Karl Blindheim
ParticipantWow, thanks for an awesome reply dude. Thing is – I agree with almost everything you say. I admit I became defensive, I didn’t expect a comment on the packaging. And since you only had the critique of “I hate it”, I came on too strong. You’re right about the photo, I’ve done alot in Photoshop so I guess combined with the typographic elements it borders on becoming its own work. I didn’t realize you were referring to the photo itself as in the exploitation of sex. But I consider myself to be pretty concious about it – I chose the image because it was the best one I could find that was suitable as artwork, and because it represent the feel of the video. I guess what I’m saying is that the choice of photography is relevant to the rest of the package. I have to say I appreciate your reply and the time you took with it. And yes – I came on here for feedback, adding “my first” to the topic – me being a total n00b and all. And I was primarily looking for feedback on the tune itself. Thanks again for your thoughts.
November 14, 2011 at 1:30 am #9796SmiTTTen
ParticipantGood man 😀
I will take the time to listen to this tomorrow when I can play it at a decent volume without waking my boy up! I am a big drum and bass head and have a few K&C tracks myself. I have also been in marketing for 15+ years, though it’s in software.
Cheers,
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