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August 10, 2011 at 10:12 pm #1001362
mr stifffy
Memberto be honest with you its hard to get anywhere in this industry without money, firstly for software, secondly for hardware to use and utilize said software and thirdly and most importantly to buy songs.
for free software to mix with try mixxx search it on google, its a free dj software that I know a few people use it and love.
as for music, rip any music cd’s you own, A lot of us dont condone copying friends harddrives or illegal downloads so do it with music you own (because if we have to pay why shouldnt you).
for djing you do kind of need an external soundcard as ones on pcs and laptops can be fairly shit and dont allow you to listen to a song on headphones while a different one is playing, so would recommend this, I think you can get a cheap usb one for around 20 quid but wouldnt expect it to be great as you can spend upto thousands on one also.not sure what else you want to know but if you message back im sure I can offer some help also!
August 10, 2011 at 10:40 pm #5582NewportDJ Drew
Participantuse keyboard mapping to turn your keyboard into a pseudo mixer.
August 10, 2011 at 11:42 pm #1001365Matt Moncrieffe
MemberSorry in advanced for the lack of proper terminology and wordy/confusing sentences to describe things.
I am certainly not one for the Torrent/Pirated material and the music, but that brings up another question, when I am at a bar/club, well they are sort of hybrids where I live, but beyond the point. Some of the places appear to play songs that seem to be right off of the album, and the entire set(while still live) is like that with a little phasing, mixing, transition, minimal effects etc. and then others have what seemed to be interlaced beats and vocals. From what I’ve seen they are called Club Mixes or Remix’s . The example doesn’t show a direct example but it sort of helps illustrate what I mean.
An example: This version of ‘On The Floor’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wALRYbjWdBw&feature=related
My main point of interest to help describe what I am saying is between 1:15 the see says “Let me introduce you, to my party people, party people…” until about 1:30 and in those 15 or so seconds the people seems to be on a loop, but when I attempt to repeat certain phrases that are notable I always get a bass or any other sort of background music. Is this a well practiced technique or well knowledge timing or something else I am missing?
I hope to grab some income as I don’t wanna spend my loan on on DJ equipment but if I do secure a job what would the first piece of equipment be. Apart from cables and in/outputs as I have realized those will be required no matter what. would a controller be fist, as I don’t plan on using turntables yet and from what I think (please correct me) a mixer is generally for turntables? Also when it comes to starting what names or specific controllers do you guys/girls suggest? The only 3 I know are Pioneer, Denon and I have heard of Numark.
August 11, 2011 at 12:01 am #1001367NewportDJ Drew
Participantif you look at my prof pic you will see a mixer/controller this is wired to my pc and lets me control my digital music like they were on turntables. as for loops phrase them right and you can isolate vocals on the fly. My best example is actually the first four minutes of my latest set, http://djmix.net/NewportDJ/ManicMixVol1/ where three songs are mashed all at once but only the bass line and drums from one are used. Is that what you are getting at? (eg:’sexy girl’ vocals are used but not the drum and basslines).
August 11, 2011 at 4:48 am #1001374Matt Moncrieffe
MemberYeah that sounds like something I would here when I am out, I can identify the song but the bass, and beat differ. Essentially I want to create remixes for a club/party setting.
August 11, 2011 at 4:59 am #1001375NewportDJ Drew
Participantphrasing, beatmatch and key, multiple decks for live on the fly mashups is what I’ve learnt so far, Practice is your best friend!
August 11, 2011 at 5:07 am #5608NewportDJ Drew
Participanta fellow DJ sent this to me ages ago, worth watching…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRu23Xsyesc&feature=related
August 11, 2011 at 5:12 am #1001376NewportDJ Drew
Participantthe next part…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNpd8FY1gqA&feature=related
August 11, 2011 at 7:29 am #5614mr stifffy
MemberYou can buy special club edits to behonest like when releasing a new song many artists will turn it into a competition to make a club edit where people all over the world from different genres and age groups will make a remix in there style which may get released on a clubland edition or on the remixers own cd, which can range from dubstep to drum and bass to electro to happy hardcore etc… As for controllers check out the numark mixtrack ive heard good things about this and its pretty cheap.
August 11, 2011 at 4:00 pm #1001385Matt Moncrieffe
MemberDrew those videos are very helpful, thanks for linking those. I have gone back and started from the beginning of his tutorials. Do most of the software that is payed for like VDJ Pro, Ableton and Traktor all utilize waveform?
Stifffy, thanks for the recommendation. I started looking at price and images of the Mixtrack and I have seen it before. It’s always good to put a name to something. It looks more friendly then some of the other controllers I have seen. Now there are two options, the MMixtrack and Mixtrack Pro, from what I have read the regular Mixtrack comes with Traktor and the Pro VDJ. Some Pro’s can get Traktor as well.(looks like based on Country) Now the difference I have noticed when it comes to the two is on the top the Pro has a delete button but the standard Mixtrack has a tick? Not sure the difference there, from what I have heard tick has to do with acapella?
August 11, 2011 at 4:16 pm #5649Emma Partnow
MemberMatt Moncrieffe, post: 5643 wrote: Drew those videos are very helpful, thanks for linking those. I have gone back and started from the beginning of his tutorials. Do most of the software that is payed for like VDJ Pro, Ableton and Traktor all utilize waveform?
Stifffy, thanks for the recommendation. I started looking at price and images of the Mixtrack and I have seen it before. It’s always good to put a name to something. It looks more friendly then some of the other controllers I have seen. Now there are two options, the MMixtrack and Mixtrack Pro, from what I have read the regular Mixtrack comes with Traktor and the Pro VDJ. Some Pro’s can get Traktor as well.(looks like based on Country) Now the difference I have noticed when it comes to the two is on the top the Pro has a delete button but the standard Mixtrack has a tick? Not sure the difference there, from what I have heard tick has to do with acapella?
Hello Matt 🙂
The ‘Tick’ Button is for Counting Beats; it used to be called a ‘Metronome’ in the Distant Past;August 11, 2011 at 4:31 pm #5651Matt Moncrieffe
MemberOk, it makes sense now. Thank you Emma.
So the Mixtrack Pro has a soundcard from what I’ve read, would this mean I know longer need an external one for my PC? and would ‘ONLY’ the Mixtrack Pro allow me to play a song on Deck1 through speakers and listen to Deck2 on my headphones? or do both provide this ability?
It appears as if the Standard Mixtrack does not have jacks for headphones or a mic, both of which I have with I think its 1/4 plug.
August 11, 2011 at 5:06 pm #5653Emma Partnow
MemberHello Matt 🙂
The Mixtrack Pro Definitely has its Own Built In Soundcard; so you can Play a Track on Deck 1; and Monitor the Track on Deck 2 with your Headphones;
This is a little Introductory Video on the Unit 🙂[media=youtube]XDQtTLDU1fM[/media]
August 12, 2011 at 2:23 am #5688pilotmike327
MemberI just finished my first mix a couple of days ago so here’s my recommendation:
1) Test the demo’s of the DJ softwares: Traktor, Serato, VDJ, Mixx, Ableton, etc. See which one “feels” comfortable to you. Even if you don’t know how to use 1/2 the software, just mess around a bit and see which one YOU like. Don’t rush it. Honestly, this is probably the first thing you should invest in (if it requires to be paid for, some softwares are legally free). If paid for, wait for a promotional offer. Ex: Traktor is giving away it’s software with the purchase of an X1. I had originally wanted to get this software and when I saw this great deal, I jumped straight in. Best decision I’ve made so far IMHO.
2) A controller that has the basic crossfader, play/pause, eq’s, etc. The basic DJing tools. The mixtrack pro does the job great because it has the built-in soundcard. When I first got it, I was actually unimpressed with it. I felt like maybe it just wasn’t for me. However, when I got it hooked up with Traktor Pro, it did everything I needed it to do. I’m kinda kicking myself in the butt for judging it too soon.
3) Build a solid library. Not a big library, not a diverse library, a solid one. One that has great quality tracks that YOU actually enjoy and you feel you can mix together. I love Iron Maiden but won’t put them in my DJ library =P. Buy little but often. When starting off, do 5-10 tracks a week.
4) Remember to enjoy it. You’re going to mess up, yell at your controller/computer (or is that just me?), just step away for a bit and come back later. Don’t force yourself to do anything. You’ll be in your car driving and thinking “OMG! Song x would go great with song Y! I gotta get home quick and test it out!!!!” Sometimes it doesn’t go good, sometimes it’s better than you thought. Just have fun 🙂
And Welcome aboard! You’ll find this forum full of great people. Ask away and someone will most likely give you an answer (unless it’s “what should my DJ name be”. Don’t.Ask.That.)
August 12, 2011 at 7:37 am #5695mr stifffy
Memberpilotmike327, post: 5683 wrote: I just finished my first mix a couple of days ago so here’s my recommendation:
1) Test the demo’s of the DJ softwares: Traktor, Serato, VDJ, Mixx, Ableton, etc. See which one “feels” comfortable to you. Even if you don’t know how to use 1/2 the software, just mess around a bit and see which one YOU like. Don’t rush it. Honestly, this is probably the first thing you should invest in (if it requires to be paid for, some softwares are legally free). If paid for, wait for a promotional offer. Ex: Traktor is giving away it’s software with the purchase of an X1. I had originally wanted to get this software and when I saw this great deal, I jumped straight in. Best decision I’ve made so far IMHO.
2) A controller that has the basic crossfader, play/pause, eq’s, etc. The basic DJing tools. The mixtrack pro does the job great because it has the built-in soundcard. When I first got it, I was actually unimpressed with it. I felt like maybe it just wasn’t for me. However, when I got it hooked up with Traktor Pro, it did everything I needed it to do. I’m kinda kicking myself in the butt for judging it too soon.
3) Build a solid library. Not a big library, not a diverse library, a solid one. One that has great quality tracks that YOU actually enjoy and you feel you can mix together. I love Iron Maiden but won’t put them in my DJ library =P. Buy little but often. When starting off, do 5-10 tracks a week.
4) Remember to enjoy it. You’re going to mess up, yell at your controller/computer (or is that just me?), just step away for a bit and come back later. Don’t force yourself to do anything. You’ll be in your car driving and thinking “OMG! Song x would go great with song Y! I gotta get home quick and test it out!!!!” Sometimes it doesn’t go good, sometimes it’s better than you thought. Just have fun 🙂
And Welcome aboard! You’ll find this forum full of great people. Ask away and someone will most likely give you an answer (unless it’s “what should my DJ name be”. Don’t.Ask.That.)
Very good reply +1 for this, I got a new laptop yesterday and had a copy of my other laptops harddrive with 20’000+ songs on, I copied my main songs over and im not even upto 200 and these are more then enough to do a full day set with selective looping etc… So its about quality not quantity.
And the messing up is only natural 🙂 best thing to do is listen to a diff genre like going from hip hop to blues, chill out and have a cup of tea and remeber its not you its just one of those days.
I play electro and dubstep and often find myself listening to/playing acoustic when my mixing is annoying me 🙂
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